r/pakistan • u/PearMaleficent7333 • 1d ago
Discussion Show theft in masjid
My Husband’s shoes were stolen from the local Masjid today at Friday prayer. I tried to console him that the person may have accidentally taken his shoes, but my Mom told me it’s commonplace in Pakistan to have shoes stolen during prayer. My Husband ended up walking home barefoot, in the rain and cold.
I’m wondering why the Masjid’s in Pakistan haven’t thought of a solution to the shoe theft problem if it’s commonplace there?
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u/muslimtexasman US 1d ago
I resort to just wearing cheap sandals or something inexpensive to the musjid. Never have this issue
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u/Umerr 1d ago
Not common but it happens at times, there's also a slight chance that someone mistakenly wears yours. Hard to find a solution though, unless there's a locked cabinet for everyone, which isn't possible.
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u/Individual-Trifle104 1d ago
Some of the vendors/stores outside the masjid can offer to store shoes for a small fee. People who come in expensive footwear can avail of it. This is how it works in many temples in India. Don't think the masjids do it though, one of my roommates had his shoes stolen when he went for Friday prayers.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
My Husband said that the only shoes left behind were broken slippers. He had just bought his winter shoes, so they were brand new.
Why can’t each person put their shoes in a locked metal container and open it with their own keys after salah?
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u/Meherjan 1d ago edited 1d ago
Too tough a solution. I like Türkiye’s better. They let you take your shoes in in a plastic bag or keep it inside the mosque in the back. Their mosques also date 100s of years old (the one in Bursa) but that’s their solution throughout the country
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u/StraightUpHaram 21h ago
Turkey does mosques right. Bazaar right outside for post and pre namaz 3rd place gathering too.
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u/ProWest665 11h ago
Turkey is a strange place. I heard that when Ataturk came to power they turned masajid in government/municipal grounds into bars among other things. One in particular had "La Allah" and "La Muhammad" painted over some ornate ceiling, but I haven't been able to find out where exactly this happened.
In the 1990s there was a camping to remove the stigma of eating and drinking in public when not observing the fasts of Ramadhan. I don't think I have met a religious Turk.
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u/_Paulie_Walnuts_ 22h ago
There is a solution we did in our boarding college days. You place one shoe in one place of the mosque and another at another place, this way no one will take your shoes accidentally or otherwise unless he is stalking you.
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u/Jade_Rook 1d ago
The only thing you can realistically do is to wear inexpensive footwear to the mosque. Any other solution is far too expensive or far too hard to manage. We are talking about hundreds of people, thousands in some mosques. How on earth are you going to find the funds, then manage lockers with all those keys and everything when there is such a crowd of people, many of them visiting that particular mosque for the first time without any idea of the procedure? It's not practical.
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u/MayfairHedgeFund 1d ago
Are you serious?
This is a masjid. Not a bank.
How impractical and disproportionate would that be?
I would say just don’t wear your Gucci shoes to the mosque. Simple. In a country where over half the population are below the poverty line, it can and will happen. It’s not a big deal.
If you stress this much over a pair of shoes, then I dread to think how anxious you’d be walking as a tourist in any major metropolis, like London or New York, where pickpockets are everywhere.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
Exactly. A masjid should not attract theft. You sound like you’re justifying this behaviour.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
It shouldn’t be a ridiculous idea to assume your shoes are kept safe in a Masjid while you pray.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
Have lived in these cities all my life, Alhumdulilah. No anxiety over shoes (you missed the point completely). A lot of pain though that my Husband had to walk home without shoes. He could have been cut and or acquired a disease walking like this, especially on a rainy day when streets flood with sewage water in Pakistan.
Please check your anger and attitude. If you have nothing nice to say, please don’t say it.
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u/Alive_Recording_4183 16h ago
So if someone prays 5 times a day they're not allowed to wear nice shoes, because brokies will steal shoes from house of God instead of asking God not to be broke
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u/me_arsalan PK 11h ago
yes it’s hard to comprehend but you’re not wrong. Many mosques in Pakistan even have the water tap locked/chained because druggies even steal those. It all depends on the locality and if you’re wearing nice shoes you need to look after them yourself here.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
Why isn’t it possible?
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u/DarkDare_Devil 1d ago
Masjids wont be able to build this many containers and give keys to all peoples
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
Whenever I have visited Pakistan, they have a security system in place for grocery stores, where you can leave your things. Like Masjids, grocery stores are busy places.
I recall that my campus also has a bag check system. Thousands of students arrive to the bookstores to buy their books for the school year and the university has a policy that each student leave their backpacks with security before entering the bookstores to buy.
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u/Comfortable-Luck6816 1d ago
It's because the grocery store or other stores earn money by selling stuff but the Chanda given by people is not enough to build this much of containers. My masjid has like thousands of people,it's not possible to build this much
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u/DarkDare_Devil 1d ago
Umm it wont work. After jumma prayers every gonna leave so fast with this system it will take 10 mins at minimum. It can work for people who pray sunnah after jumma in masjid
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
Perhaps we shouldn’t be leaving so fast from Juma. This is a modern times problem because people see coming to the Masjid, a burden. And you know what? Changing systems can condition people to change.
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u/DarkDare_Devil 1d ago
We already live in Pakistan. How can we make other people stop and wait in line and get their shoes one by one🥲
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
You wouldn’t have to wait one by one, if shoes are secured properly. I’m imagining a locker system.
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u/DarkDare_Devil 1d ago
Umm if a masjid can hold 150 prayers. We will have to create 150 locks which will cost alot ans Masjids have very very tight budgets. And even if they do make. Keys wont be option there can be passcode system that one can set and open and it gets reset and can be able to set again. It will be hars to tell everyone how to use. And also raat ko koi nashai aya sakta ha. I am talking about typical street masjids. They are big ones as well with maximum capacity in thousands.
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u/Suitable_Limit_7970 1d ago
There isn't any way to save or protect your shoes, even if there was it wont stop the thief. Unfortunately we live in a country where stealing shoes is a thing, which is genuinely sad both in terms of the current economic conditions of the country and also one's faith. Nonetheless, the best you can do is hope for the best and not wear too good looking or expensive shoes.
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u/bored-fish2 1d ago
Carry your shoes or sandals in a bag when entering the mosque, as it is not practical to lock shoes, and handle keys, for hundreds of people or have a sufficiently large space for this. Most of the mosques run on chanda so there isn't enough budget for this.
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u/Full_Computer6941 1d ago
The general rule is not to wear new good shoes there as chances of stealing are high. Or put in a small bag and take inside with u.
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u/Amnasanana 1d ago
The amount of stolen chappal stories I’ve heard. It’s way too common!! Don’t be surprised if you find all the thieves in or around mosques. Haha!!
Get the cheapest plastic slipper you can find, and use that.
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u/nauman009 18h ago
Easiest Solution: Put one shoe in one corner, the other in any other corner especially if they are new
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u/laevanay 1d ago
It will happen EVERY time better shoes are worn to the masjid.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
Lesson learned.
I just remembered that someone who cleans the Masjid threw my colleagues shoes in the garbage while she prayed. Although those shoes were quite expensive, but old.
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u/DarkDare_Devil 1d ago
Also this isn't as big issue as its in Saudi Arabia. There is a very little chance you will find your shoe if you are not carrying it in your bag with you
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u/iMeeruh ڈیرہ غازی خان 1d ago
It's very common, sometimes people genuinely mistake your shoes for their but at the end similar looking shoes are left for you to take home. Other times people just take what they like and that is very common. That is the sole reason why most people wear slippers and cheap plastic shoes while going for Namaz. I never had mine stolen but have seen many cases.
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u/F_DOG_93 21h ago
I am from the UK and trust me, it happens in more Pakistani areas here too. There really is no solution to this.
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u/youwerehuman 18h ago
I don’t think any practical solution to this problem is possible, and many people have already explained why it’s not. However, what is possible is taking precautions when we’re aware of the risks. For example, wearing inexpensive slippers or shoes or keeping them in a bag can help. Some people were commenting that your husband isn’t street-smart, but what’s morally wrong is morally wrong, regardless of the situation. If your husband had taken someone else’s slippers or shoes and walked home, that person would have faced the same dilemma, and your husband would be stealing, even if the situation seemed to justify it. I’ve faced a similar situation twice in my life, and after that, I stopped wearing expensive shoes or slippers to the mosque. Fortunately, I haven’t encountered the same problem again since then.
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u/shoaibirshad 17h ago
My uncle faced the same incident yesterday 🥲. Feels like we as Muslims are not safe even in Masjid.
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u/OldCardiologist1859 17h ago
It's a pity. Anybody reading this, let me give you a permanent solution to it.
Don't leave your shoes at 1 place together. Keep 1 somewhere else & the other at a different location.
No one bothers to steal/wear accidentally a single shoe. It has worked for me even during Umrah/Eid.
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u/gennisokami 15h ago
Really sorry that happened to your husband but I don't see a solution to the problem. Even though it's wrong, it's not as simple as providing a locked storage for people. A masjid barely gets enough Chanda to keep it's monthly bills so I don't see why people would spend more to build lockers for 100 people. Maybe what you could do is provide a service to store shoes to whoever WANTS to and charge a fee for them, but then again it may not feel right as a principle.
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u/Happy-sad-person 13h ago
Well just wear cheap shoes. There isnt much of a solution. Or you can leave one shoe at the door and take one inside and put it in a rack further away, they cant steal a single pair
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u/farrukhishere 10h ago
Just take a small plastic bag with you. Shoes go in the bag and take the bag with you. This is the norm in a lot of countries but the trend hasn’t entered Pakistan yet.
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u/playerknownbutthole 16h ago
There is a solution, its called a token system. All popular mazars and big mosques has it. Make a local community and address the issue, fund and fix the issue. That how things are done in my area.
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u/Ok_Quarter_517 11h ago
Looks like you haven't grown up in Pakistan anyways its very common here to get your shoe stolen outside of masjid it has happened to me quite a few times and almost every Pakistani man have faced it once in their lifetime. Its a bad thing especially outside the masjid but it happens
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u/Worried_Writing_3436 11h ago
2 months ago, I offered a Jumma prayer in Mansehra and majority of people there were Peshawri chappal and so was I.
After prayer, I was confused which one is mine so I wore someone’s else until that very person pointed out haha.
Thank goodness, I recognised mine and came home.
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u/alphajugger 11h ago
Haram me choria hoti ye to phir bhi pakistan hai, happened with me too btw uske baad saste chappal pehn na shuru kardia. There isn't really a solution to this aik aik bande ko nai dekh sakte ke what he's wearing.
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u/Pak-Khan 2h ago
Happened to me earlier this year. Other people were surprised that I was wearing imported sneakers, instead of having old pair of chappals in my car for going to masjid. Lesson learnt.
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u/FutureUofTDropout-_- 1d ago
Literally happens all around the world, happened to me in Canada.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
Also, you may have had to walk barefoot in Canada, after your shoe theft, but it’s so much more dangerous in Pakistan, especially with stray dogs and feral cats roaming the streets.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
That doesn’t mean it’s right. If there is a problem that is considered haraam and that could potentially harm someone, we need to think of solutions and take measures to prevent such harm.
At our Masjid, here in North America, we have had men use the women’s bathroom. That’s not okay, so solutions have to be thought of to prevent this. Now for me to say, “Oh, this happens everywhere”, well that’s being dismissive and passive to sin, which is not what Allah SWT encourages. If anything, it is sunnah to change what is sinful.
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u/FutureUofTDropout-_- 23h ago
I didn’t once say it’s OK, my comment was about you, focussing on this being a Pakistani problem when this is pretty universal and honestly whats going to happen anywhere you leave your belongings unattended.
As for a solution, the simple solution is to take a bag with you and just keep your shoes in that, or wear cheap shoes.
Faisal masjid does have a place where you can pay to lock your shoes, I’m sure other larger mosques do as well, but that’s not a reasonable expectation from your average neighbourhood mosque.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 23h ago
I’m not focusing on this being a Pakistani problem. It happened to my Husband in Pakistan, so I posted here. Also, been attending the Mosque for 30 years, never happened to me once in Canada and never heard of it happening to anyone else either. Although a janitor did throw away my colleagues shoes a few weeks ago, which we all thought was bizarre.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 23h ago
It’s really annoying how people make assumptions or jump to conclusions over a simple post. SubhanAllah.
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u/FutureUofTDropout-_- 23h ago
Like you are rn? Quite literally jumping to conclusions and assumptions. Nothing I said was rude lol or diminished it being a shitty situation, just sharing that it’s not uncommon here in Canada either.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 23h ago
I am jumping to conclusions how? I’m pointing out how counterproductive your assumptions were towards me. Take the solutions to everywhere and please leave me alone. It’s a Friday.
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u/FutureUofTDropout-_- 23h ago
Please quote where I assumed anything?
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u/PearMaleficent7333 23h ago
“Focused on” already quoted you and pointed it out to you.
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u/FutureUofTDropout-_- 23h ago
Your original post doesn’t mention this being common in Pakistan ? Not sure why you took that comment as an insult lol. Yr post is quite literally focused on yr husband losing shoes in PAKISTAN.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 23h ago
Because it happened to him there. Why would I post about another country when a)it didn’t happen in another country and b) it happened in Pakistan!
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u/PearMaleficent7333 23h ago
If this is a problem “everywhere” then the solutions should be applied to “everywhere”.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 23h ago
There’s a problem, I posted. I thought of some solutions. People discussed. You decided to turn this counterproductive by assuming and concluding that I’m focused on this being an issue only in Pakistan. Jeez.
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u/FutureUofTDropout-_- 23h ago
My comment was neither that serious or that deep, u said “my mom told me it was common in Pak” I just said it’s quite common outside of Pakistan as well. I’m not sure why you’re so offended, please breathe it’s just Reddit :)
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u/PearMaleficent7333 23h ago
And yet you continue to comment.
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u/FutureUofTDropout-_- 23h ago
You comment like 10 times on one comment and then get mad when I respond? 😭 that’s crazy
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u/LibraFive 1d ago
Some say that when your shoes get stolen during prayer in masjid, it's good luck in that your prayer was accepted, and a little loss and slight hardship blessed unto you in forgiveness and mercy, and a bigger burden removed from your record.
I don't know why, but this saying feels good. Allah knows best. 💚🙏
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
JazakAllah Khayrain. Somebody said that to me after my mug broke a few weeks ago. I will pass these words of wisdom to my Husband.
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u/BlueberryBig7125 19h ago edited 19h ago
Story Time!
So, when I was a kid I was like 9 years old (maybe 10), I had my same pair of slippers get stolen twice from the same masjid, & both times I wore someone else's slippers to my home, I was like hell if I am gonna walk bare foot, even though my house was around the corner, no rain or cold weather either. Out of luck (maybe big brains), both times I got it recovered, & returned the borrowed (ok stolen) slippers to the masjid later.
Moral of the story? You have to be adaptable to the situation, you have to make a wise decision in bad situations. Obviously, I am not asking you to steal slippers but need to come up with something else which isn't morally wrong. 9 year old me didn't know shit about moral values if I had known, I would have come up with a different strategy.
Don't want to be harsh or disrespectful, but how on earth would your husband even survive incase (Allah na karay) a dire situation comes up? Obviously if he's 8 (not even 9) then his decision to walk barefoot home can be considered a wise one.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 18h ago
From a simple Reddit post, I’m getting people’s black and white version of who they assume my Husband is, when they know nothing about him. Obviously you think theft is okay, that’s why you decided to talk about my Husband instead.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 18h ago
So what you are saying that it’s his fault for not being wise when something bad happens? Don’t you think that sounds alot like victim shaming?
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u/MayfairHedgeFund 1d ago
A solution? To what exactly?
Do you expect them to sell you an insurance policy at the door? Then you can make a claim on the way out?
Sounds like either you or your husband have never been to a mosque before?
It happens. Keep them with you if you are that attached to them.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
It’s not about the attachment. In your anger, you missed the point completely.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago
Poverty shouldn’t lead people to hurt others. Poverty does not justify criminality. You sound like you have never learned a word of the Quran.
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u/me_normal_nah 19h ago
In 28 years of my life, this happened only once. And I am a frequent to go to mosque. Apke husband lgta buht sidhe hai, thora wait kr lete akhir mai jo reh jati wo tu atleast pehn k ghar a jaty 😂
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u/PearMaleficent7333 18h ago
He didn’t want to wear someone’s dirty shoes. He said someone took his shoes and left their dirty, broken ones. He refused to wear them.
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u/Penalty-Capable 14h ago
The one things I’ve always done is wait out in the masjid till everyone has left and take the last remaining chappal failing which call a friend/ home to get me a pair if feasible. Sure beats walking barefoot
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u/PearMaleficent7333 9h ago
Yes. If people have friends and family in the city, it sure does beat walking barefoot, right?
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u/PakistaniJanissary 14h ago
Wasnt he able to call some one to bring him a pair?
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u/PearMaleficent7333 9h ago
Wouldn’t it have been easy, if that was the case. It’s so interesting how people jump to question the person who is wronged, rather than look at the wrong itself.
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u/PakistaniJanissary 5h ago
It’s asking about the contingency plan when a normal accident such as this can occur.
My old man goes with the chaukidar and they both have phones. That’s our contingency.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
Phones does not equate that anyone will be there to help if there is no one to help!
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u/PearMaleficent7333 4h ago
Sometimes accidents happen. But that doesn’t mean we look at the individual victim, instead of the bigger problem.
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u/PakistaniJanissary 4h ago
Chapals getting stolen at mosque isn’t a massively common problem though. And when it is, people don’t often deliberately do it.
The problem is that the poor guy had to come back in the rain barefoot in public.
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u/Waleezel 13h ago
Its not really an issue with Pakistan. In fact every place has their own thing going on. Turkey has tourist scams and pickpockets, so does London. Saudia also has shoe thiefs. New York literally has thugs roaming around in parks. The point is its not something that can be easily controlled and its not like it has a huge impact. I mean the country has bigger problems to worry about than shoe thieves. You have to be adaptable like people know how to avoid tourist scams so should one know how to avoid this. Maybe not wear shoes that literally come off as expensive. I know it may be different for your husband, its annoying yes. But its not something that should be taken to heart. Things happen, we cope, we find alternatives.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 9h ago
People wear to the masjid, what they were wearing to work, or what they were wearing for a business meeting.
We could also look at how what you said as victim shaming.
It’s the same way people question women’s clothing and choices rather than look at the perpetrator.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 6h ago
This Hadith makes sense, when talking about general responsibilities. But unfortunately you have to take your shoes off for prayer, and instead on helping this discussion, you are bringing a quote from Hadith that would make sense, if we didn’t have to take our shoes off for prayer.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 6h ago edited 6h ago
The responsibilities here is supposed to be on the Mosques, from my perspective. If Mosques are being run on donation, then we need to start asking why, in a Muslim country, Mosques are struggling? We need to look deeper and start asking these questions, because that’s the only way we can begin to make change. Telling people to be “more responsible” won’t change the reality of the Mosques. In fact, it will only encourage more thefts. Why is a Muslim country struggling to run Mosques? This should have been something people should have started to ask from my post. Instead my post got people making personal attacks and pinning the blame on the victim. SubhanAllah.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
I’m not sure why you keep commenting. I have made it very clear what I was talking about and why. Please stop commenting.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago edited 5h ago
And if you steal, from a building, like universities, which are public here, there will be consequences.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 6h ago
Quran doesn’t mention that victims “should learn their lesson” from theft. In fact, the punishment for theft is pretty straightforward.
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u/ProWest665 6h ago
Now you have switched back to the subject of theft, when I was addressing your point about womens dress in UQran. Does Quran command women to dress modestly? If ye, does that mean what desi-liberals say about anyone who tells women to dress modestly applies to Allah as well?
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
No, I’m not “switching back to theft” because that’s what my post was about! However, I was responding back to you, which I think you are not used to, when you started talking about the Hadith, which does not apply here.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
I brought that point up, because victim-shamers often talk about how a woman was dressed, rather than look at the crime. Theft is a crime, like rape is a crime. Looking at the victim and shaming the victim, which Quran does not do, is counterproductive and even anti-Islamic.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
I was talking about the CRIME of rape, just like I was talking about the CRIME of theft. Instead of looking at the CRIME, which according to Pakistani’s is a problem- you are looking at the individual, just as victim-shamers look at the VICTIM of rape, instead of looking at the CRIME.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
YOU are the one talking about women’s dressing, just like you were talking about individual choices, instead of looking at the CRIME, which is the issue here, not my Husband’s expensive shoes, or a woman’s clothing.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
Oh my Allah. You still don’t get it, do you?
I brought up a CRIME, which people tend to victim-shame, which is something you are also doing regarding a theft.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
This post is not about women’s dressing. It’s about CRIME, theft to be precise. Take your women’s dressing to another post!
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
I talked about victim shaming which takes place when a theft occurred or when a rape occurs. In both instances, it is counter productive. Please reread what you should have gathered from this discussion. Theft is a problem, so it needs to be looked at and prevented.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 4h ago
Whether I “revealed” my position to you or not is not the discussion here. The discussion is about victim shaming after a crime. In both crimes, individual choices is looked at by people like you who victim shame. I do not wish to talk about clothing, and what the Quran and Hadith says about clothing because I’m talking about what people do when crimes like this are committed. You do not know how to respect boundaries. I asked you several times to leave me alone, but you have revealed yourself, and who you are, by continuously ignoring what I write to pursue the topic of women’s clothing. You are a victim shamer and you have no respect for boundaries.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
I brought it up to give you an example of victim-shaming, which you are doing. I didn’t bring it up to talk about women’s dressing.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
You keep wanting to talk about the Quran and women’s dressing, which is NOT why I brought the example up.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 5h ago
Then stop commenting. I already asked you to do that. And you did not respect my boundaries and kept going.
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u/Plastic-Garlic237 11h ago
Looks like your husband was wearing nike or adidas or something of similar cost, well, stupid of him to wear such shoes to the mosque
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u/PearMaleficent7333 9h ago
Really, thank you. People who are given the opportunity to discuss solutions, yet still find a way to talk about people, you really gotta question how brilliant they are! So thank you for being the most brilliant of all!
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u/Plastic-Garlic237 9h ago
Just spoke the truth. Crying over shoes in front of your wife. Damn,thats not manly at all. So , i'd advice you to not share this incident in front of your friends or even family. !
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u/PearMaleficent7333 9h ago
And you know all about being manly? LoL. I could say a lot of things to you, but I fear Allah. I will leave you to your “manliness” and “truths”.
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u/Plastic-Garlic237 8h ago
Lol, i m not sure where u r coming from . You dont have to be a molani here. You made a post , asking about your husband , and i made a comment. Its an open post. You dont like it then dont post it. Grow up.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 8h ago
Thanks for your “truth” again, Mr. “Man”. Probably the only time you get to talk to women. LoL.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 9h ago
It’s so manly of you to bother non-mehram women. As a general rule, if you have nothing nice to say, don’t say it.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 8h ago
So, Mr. “Manly”, please enlighten us how you talk to your “wife”? LoL.
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u/Plastic-Garlic237 8h ago
In a way that she wouldnt have to go online and seek validation for her crying baby
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u/PearMaleficent7333 8h ago
Look everyone! This person is the most “manly” of all on this thread. He knows how to act like a man. Let’s look at him and act like him and call eachother stupid for our everyday choices, because that’s what men are supposed to do in the name of “truth”.
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u/Plastic-Garlic237 8h ago
Looks like someone is badly triggered lol
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u/PearMaleficent7333 8h ago
Look! More “truths”! Can’t stand someone’s comments? Then learn not to have thin skin if you can’t take the response. Be a man.
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u/Plastic-Garlic237 8h ago
Lol lady, i'm chill. Stop talking to non mehram strangers here .
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u/PearMaleficent7333 8h ago
Can’t take it anymore eh? Looks like you don’t have any more “truths”? Be a man.
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u/Plastic-Garlic237 8h ago
Lady, fear Allah and dont speak to non mehram strangers on a stranger platform . Its isha time. Go pray.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 8h ago
Using Allah SWT, that’s you being a “man”
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u/Plastic-Garlic237 8h ago
You can use religion when it suits you but when other people do, then u get triggered. Hypocrisy at its peak.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 8h ago
Are you done having your internet tantrum for the day? Go to your mama now. She’s waiting for you.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 8h ago
Awww, mama’s baby, just using my own words back to me? LOL. Okay mama-baby, you win. Are you okay now? LOL.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 8h ago
Are you okay, you win, I already told you you were the most brilliant and manly one on this thread. LoL. That’s not enough for you eh? Talk about narcissism.
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u/PearMaleficent7333 8h ago
Okay mama-baby, I know you aren’t married, that’s why you speak these “truths” and try to assert your “manliness”, it’s okay. It’s going to be okay. Really. You win. Happy? Have your toy now.
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u/Plastic-Garlic237 8h ago
Once again not your husband. 🤣 Do you talk to him like that, now i wonder why he cries !
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u/PearMaleficent7333 8h ago
Have nothing better to say? Okay it’s okay. Go to your mama now, that’s the only woman who can stand you.
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u/Vivid_Expert_7141 1d ago
Threads like these are what makes me scared to visit Pakistan from the US.
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u/IAmAlwaysinDilemma CA 1d ago
You got scared of visiting Pakistan because someone stole a show?
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u/PerformerOk3600 1d ago
I get scared to visit the US because of shootings every week. What a difference!
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u/Vivid_Expert_7141 1d ago
No. Just the risk vs the anxiety, headache and paying 2 mushtandas to walk around with me every time I leave the hotel is not appealing to me.
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u/PerformerOk3600 1d ago
This doesn’t just happen in Pakistan, in a lot of parts of Saudi Arabia it happens even in Masjid Al Haram unfortunately.
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u/Vivid_Expert_7141 1d ago
Mostly by DESIS. That’s the sad part. From India, Bangladesh for the most part. Culture not religion is a problem here
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u/PearMaleficent7333 1d ago edited 1d ago
It’s not scary, more so a problem that needs a solution. Pakistan is a great place to visit.
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