r/BlackPeopleTwitter Jul 20 '24

Country Club Thread The party of "fuck you, I got mine"

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

Are they calling for the deportation of legal immigrants, too?

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u/postdiluvium Jul 20 '24

They aren't even talking about illegal immigrants from Eastern Europe.

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u/createayou Jul 20 '24

“We’re gonna deport a lot of people, 10 million people and growing - anchor babies, their parents, their grandparents.We’re gonna put kids in cages. It’s gonna be glorious. We’re gonna detain a lot of people in the D.C. gulag and Gitmo.”

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u/Aidian Jul 20 '24

Ah yes. “Anchor babies,” also known as United States citizens.

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u/aenteus Jul 20 '24

So, Baron?

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u/Aidian Jul 20 '24

I don’t think you’re allowed to keep foreign titles. /s

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u/theshortlady Jul 20 '24

Baron's not one of "those" people! /s

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

Trump says he wants birthright citizenship to change. If that happens, new babies born to illegal immigrants won't be citizens.

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u/TheCommonKoala ☑️ Jul 20 '24

Currently, they are American citizens. He is calling for the deportation of natural born Americans.

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u/Rottimer Jul 20 '24

If that happens, new babies born to legal immigrants won’t be citizens.

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u/ChiggaOG Jul 20 '24

Sounds like what Japan has, but getting citizenship in Japan is harder even for someone living over there and working.

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u/Chronis67 Jul 20 '24

And Japan is known for being fairly racist, except a lot of people are pro-Japan so we call it xenophobia instead.

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u/CanuckBacon Jul 20 '24

I think xenophobic is a good word for it since they tend to be bigoted against people from basically all other cultures. Whereas a racist white American likely wouldn't make much distinction between themselves and a white Brit or Canadian,. Bigoted Japanese people will look down on Koreans, Chinese, etc. Hell, they discriminate against ethnic Japanese people that are descendents of those that lived in Brazil. Xenophobic is a more useful word.

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u/BigDeckLanm Jul 20 '24

Do redditors only know about Japan and the US? Lmao

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u/ChiggaOG Jul 20 '24

Spending enough time in those spheres makes it easy to pick up. I know less about citizenship in other countries without using Wikipedia as a source or if there is youtube videos about the process.

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u/salgat Jul 20 '24

Unconditional birthright citizenship is actually rare for most countries. In Europe for example, no country offers unconditional birthright citizenship (at least one parent of citizenship is usually needed). I'd be okay with a more nuanced form of citizenship. For example, if you are born in the US and live there at least X years, you gain citizenship automatically, instead of this bullshit where Russian elite fly over, give birth, then fly back to their home country.

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u/gerblnutz Jul 20 '24

I forgot the part where a bunch of illegal immigrants came into America and told the native population where they couldn't live.

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u/CanuckBacon Jul 20 '24

Depends entirely on where those countries are. In the Americas birthright citizenship in the norm. Almost every country in the Americas has it. In Eurasia it's the opposite.

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u/Aggressive-Will-4500 Jul 20 '24

Checks Google.

33 countries have unrestricted birth right citizenship

That's not exactly "rare".

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

good thing we're not Japan

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u/thebestgesture Jul 20 '24

Most countries don't have birthright citizenship.

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u/Cosmereboy Jul 20 '24

Yes, and while we could (should? I'm not sure) change it, we cannot strip existing citizens of their citizenry. 

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u/helel_8 Jul 20 '24

Jesus Christ. Just when I think I can't be shocked by these people

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

That guy sounds crazy. Hopefully, he doesn't become the next AG. Trump has said he wants to change birth right citizenship laws. If he does, what Mike Davis says will be legal.

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u/createayou Jul 20 '24

At this point I don’t even think legal immigrants are safe. Unless they get cops to just detain anyone who looks non white, I don’t see how they’ll have the man power to deport every undocumented immigrant. There’s not enough ICE agents or cops to do the work legitimately, so they’ll just have to round us up.

As a Cuban immigrant who got my citizenship at 15 thanks to my parents taking the test, at this point I’m just gonna get a gun and hope I don’t have to use it. 🤷‍♀️

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u/OneX32 Jul 20 '24

At this point I don’t even think legal immigrants are safe.

The fact that the previous administration stripped kids from their parents and took no care to keep track of them kind of proves that they won't care about checking the legal reasoning behind one's immigrant status before they push you out of the train in the middle of the Sonoran desert.

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u/RedRider1138 Jul 20 '24

That’s so strange to hear from the people so concerned about child trafficking. /s

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u/sh1boleth Jul 20 '24

Fun fact - even legal non citizens like F1 Students, H1B Workers and Green Card Permanent residents can legally buy guns lol.

Source - https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonimmigrant-alien-who-has-been-admitted-united-states-under-nonimmigrant-visa

Hunting License in a majority of the states is very simple to acquire and the only requirement is residency in said state.

Some FFLs in Rural areas may be unsure of this law and refuse transfers but the ones in suburban and urban areas are aware and do transfers without issues provided all documents are present and legal.

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u/luxii4 Jul 20 '24

You’re right, legal immigrants and people born in America can be deported any time. I saw a documentary called Born in East LA that showed this exact situation.

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u/Capt-Crap1corn Jul 20 '24

What I wonder about are the people that will ratchet up hostility as a way of keeping themselves safe. Kind of like when the harshest critics of Gays were actually Gay themselves but destroying the lives of Gay people. Something like that making everything more worse than we could imagine.

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u/Creamofwheatski Jul 20 '24

Yep, they are going to turn millions of people "illegal" overnight by revoking birthright citzenship and start arresting a deporting folks born in America because their parents are immigrants. Imagine being forcibly deported to a country you have never been to before because your skin is brown. it will be pure chaos if they try this and it will destroy the country. 

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

The would-be law would have to include retroactive language for that to be the case. I doubt they will succeed.

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u/Creamofwheatski Jul 20 '24

Lets hope, this is what they say they want to do, i am hoping they dont get enough power in congress to pull it off but if its an executive order backed by the supreme court all bets are off. We are living in unprecedented times, no one really knows for sure whats going to happen next.

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u/jadsonbreezy Jul 20 '24

He can't even count if I read the quote correctly 😭

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u/NJHitmen Jul 20 '24

Look at the shit-eating grin on this motherfucker at the beginning of the video. His clear message here is: “I’m going to deport every brown person I possibly can - including legal immigrants - and I’m going to love every second of it.”

Ugh. Makes me want to vomit. Even more nauseating is the fact that - apparently - millions of voters not only support this kind of policy, but they do so cheerfully.

brb, gotta go throw up in my mouth

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u/GvRiva Jul 20 '24

Gulag, as known as Konzentration camps and you all know what the next step is...

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u/SelfWipingUndies Jul 20 '24

What's the rationale behind this guy being Trump's pick for next attorney general?

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u/Shifter25 Jul 20 '24

They're gonna be deporting natural born citizens eventually. There is no end state of fascism. It needs an other to hate. Once "illegal immigrants" loses its terror, they'll switch to "immigrants." Then "non-Americans." "Non-white." "Impure." Until brown eyes makes you a second class citizen.

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u/cabernaynay Jul 20 '24

The majority of people in the Japanese Internment camps were US citizens.

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u/Rottimer Jul 20 '24

ICE has already “mistakenly” deported U.S. citizens. You don’t automatically get a lawyer in deportation proceedings. So if they pick you up, you’re pretty much fucked.

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u/OneX32 Jul 20 '24

Most don't know this is how it will happen. It'll be thousands of "accidents" according to the state and they'll say their hands are tied to use state resources to remedy any of them. It's not going to be bullhorns going through the 'burbs ordering Democrats into the busses in the streets.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

Exactly if your Brown it’s GG’s.

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u/OneX32 Jul 20 '24

They won't deport us. They'll concentrate us into camps because we are society's undesirables who can't be seen within the nation's cities and towns because we are "trouble". After our humanity has been stripped away and we are just pests to them, we will be as valuable as dirt. History repeats itself and it sad the nation who has had access to learn that history is the one that will restart the cycle.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

Was Melania a legal immigrant?

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

She did a nude photo shoot in 1995 that raised questions about whether the photo shoot was in line with the visa she had at the time, but other than that, yes, her immigration was done legally.

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u/Aggressive-Will-4500 Jul 20 '24

She apparently got her citizenship under an "Einstein visa". That seems like it could possibly be a fraudulent categorization therefore leaving a crack for having her citizenship revocation.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

So she was an illegal worker stealing American jobs?

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

The question was raised, but I haven't seen anything that confirms that what she did was illegal.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

Got it. And I’m sure magats would be ok about a questionable illegal immigrant worker

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

I think conservatives would be more sympathetic to an immigrant who got a visa and overstepped the visa more than towards a person who snuck in with no visa. Especially of the former took the steps to eventually get the correct visa. I'm a progressive, but even I can recognize that not every conservative is a racist hypocrite.

And you don't even know if she broke the law.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

Every racist is a conservative. And every conservative is at least ok with racism. Those aren’t debatable

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u/rookieoo Jul 20 '24

That's not true. Racism is a spectrum that affects all people. Implicit biases are real and are not limited to conservatives.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

I’m obviously talking about direct racism, not unconscious bias and you know that

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

Does the sign make a distinction?

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

Not at first but it will get to that point eventually when they are out of illegals to blame.

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u/TonarinoTotoro1719 Jul 20 '24

Immigrants with the wrong shades of skin. But how exactly will they know if a Hispanic/South Asian person is legal or illegal or even a citizen? So they'll put all colored people in 'verification' (detention) centers to verify that they are actually legal immigrants/citizens.

Except, once they are in the 'verification' centers, who is to say what happens to their property/money. I really hope POC who support republicans right now are delusional. There are no model minorities, if you are a minority in any sense you will be on the chopping block sooner or later.

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u/Khatib Jul 20 '24

Melania is an illegal.

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u/Parks102 Jul 20 '24

No they are not.

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