“We’re gonna deport a lot of people, 10 million people and growing - anchor babies, their parents, their grandparents.We’re gonna put kids in cages. It’s gonna be glorious. We’re gonna detain a lot of people in the D.C. gulag and Gitmo.”
I think xenophobic is a good word for it since they tend to be bigoted against people from basically all other cultures. Whereas a racist white American likely wouldn't make much distinction between themselves and a white Brit or Canadian,. Bigoted Japanese people will look down on Koreans, Chinese, etc. Hell, they discriminate against ethnic Japanese people that are descendents of those that lived in Brazil. Xenophobic is a more useful word.
Because American concept of race is stupid. Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese are all classified as Asian, so if they hate each other, it can't be racism. But that makes about as much sense as saying that no one is racist because we are all one human race. Racism from an American view barely works when applied just to the US and falls apart when it is applied globally. We need a better way to describe bigotry in general, but the topic is complex and people want simple labels. So we always end up with simple labels that don't fit some situations and then some people acting like the situations the labels don't fit is not nearly as bad as the situations where the labels do fit.
Spending enough time in those spheres makes it easy to pick up. I know less about citizenship in other countries without using Wikipedia as a source or if there is youtube videos about the process.
If it helps, we can certainly note that Antigua & Barbuda and Tanzania are in the list of unrestricted jus soli countries as well.
Mongolia has a more restricted form with some stipulations,1 along with Australia, Sweden, Thailand, and more.
1 Generally, this looks something like a requirement that one’s parents must have been living within the territory for a given number of years, and/or that one must actively claim it rather than citizenship being conferred automatically.
Unconditional birthright citizenship is actually rare for most countries. In Europe for example, no country offers unconditional birthright citizenship (at least one parent of citizenship is usually needed). I'd be okay with a more nuanced form of citizenship. For example, if you are born in the US and live there at least X years, you gain citizenship automatically, instead of this bullshit where Russian elite fly over, give birth, then fly back to their home country.
I always liked this scene that gives perspective on how Native Americans weren't a single homogenous harmonious people (as stereotypes would have it), but rather many separate nations that fought over and conquered territory from each other long before Europeans came.
Depends entirely on where those countries are. In the Americas birthright citizenship in the norm. Almost every country in the Americas has it. In Eurasia it's the opposite.
Most of those are tiny countries in the Caribbean and central/south America. The only first world countries in that list are the US and Canada. Remember, there are almost 200 countries in the world.
An additional 37 have jus soli with some varying restrictions, putting the wider scope total of soli v sanguinis at more like 36%.
While I wouldn’t argue that it’s necessarily common, it also seems disingenuous to state that something prevalent in virtually the entirety of the North and South American continents is “rare.”
Almost all states in Europe, Asia, Africa and Oceania grant nationality at birth based upon the principle of jus sanguinis ("right of blood"), in which nationality is inherited through parents rather than birthplace, or a restricted version of jus soli in which nationality by birthplace is automatic only for the children of certain immigrants.
Well, if its an "official act", SCOTUS just made it to where we can't hold the president criminally liable for deporting naturally born citizens.
Edit: also, undocumented parents with a us born child can still be deported. you cannot sponsor your parents for a green card until you are 21. anchor babies, for the most part, are a myth. they're a strawman.
That guy sounds crazy. Hopefully, he doesn't become the next AG. Trump has said he wants to change birth right citizenship laws. If he does, what Mike Davis says will be legal.
At this point I don’t even think legal immigrants are safe. Unless they get cops to just detain anyone who looks non white, I don’t see how they’ll have the man power to deport every undocumented immigrant. There’s not enough ICE agents or cops to do the work legitimately, so they’ll just have to round us up.
As a Cuban immigrant who got my citizenship at 15 thanks to my parents taking the test, at this point I’m just gonna get a gun and hope I don’t have to use it. 🤷♀️
At this point I don’t even think legal immigrants are safe.
The fact that the previous administration stripped kids from their parents and took no care to keep track of them kind of proves that they won't care about checking the legal reasoning behind one's immigrant status before they push you out of the train in the middle of the Sonoran desert.
Hunting License in a majority of the states is very simple to acquire and the only requirement is residency in said state.
Some FFLs in Rural areas may be unsure of this law and refuse transfers but the ones in suburban and urban areas are aware and do transfers without issues provided all documents are present and legal.
You’re right, legal immigrants and people born in America can be deported any time. I saw a documentary called Born in East LA that showed this exact situation.
What I wonder about are the people that will ratchet up hostility as a way of keeping themselves safe. Kind of like when the harshest critics of Gays were actually Gay themselves but destroying the lives of Gay people. Something like that making everything more worse than we could imagine.
Yep, they are going to turn millions of people "illegal" overnight by revoking birthright citzenship and start arresting a deporting folks born in America because their parents are immigrants. Imagine being forcibly deported to a country you have never been to before because your skin is brown. it will be pure chaos if they try this and it will destroy the country.
Lets hope, this is what they say they want to do, i am hoping they dont get enough power in congress to pull it off but if its an executive order backed by the supreme court all bets are off. We are living in unprecedented times, no one really knows for sure whats going to happen next.
Look at the shit-eating grin on this motherfucker at the beginning of the video. His clear message here is: “I’m going to deport every brown person I possibly can - including legal immigrants - and I’m going to love every second of it.”
Ugh. Makes me want to vomit. Even more nauseating is the fact that - apparently - millions of voters not only support this kind of policy, but they do so cheerfully.
Very clever of you to not say who the quote belonged to in this context, as most would assume it’s a Trump quote given the conversation, but instead it’s just some guy.
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u/createayou Jul 20 '24
“We’re gonna deport a lot of people, 10 million people and growing - anchor babies, their parents, their grandparents.We’re gonna put kids in cages. It’s gonna be glorious. We’re gonna detain a lot of people in the D.C. gulag and Gitmo.”