They are the worst form of whatabouism that detracts from the actual problem. We get it. Biden is the better choice. She is not going to convince anyone who is set on voting for Trump with this tweet. And it just detracts from the real conversations that should about how we got into this mess in the first place and how we are going to fix it. It’s not like electing either of them is going to fix the completely broken two party system. At this point these Twitter and fb posts are just engagement farming.
I absolutely agree we need to have that conversation in a very, very real way. But we probably won’t be able to have that conversation if he doesn’t win. So I think it’s about banding together for that and then addressing it. If he loses, I don’t think there’s much left to fight for.
....Unless the reason we lose is because he couldn't win, which the polling shows. Then it would behoove us to have the conversation about fixing the nomination of Biden right now.
Exactly, it's not about one bad debate being worse than Trump. It's about the candidate that we put forward making it more likely that Trump wins. In a critical moment like this, it'd feel a lot better to have a strong candidate people believed in rather than a candidate that we're constantly making excuses for.
I just keep getting flashbacks to the first time Trump was elected. People wanted Trump. People were kind of meh about Hillary. We could've put forward a progressive candidate people believed in back then with Bernie, but we put forward a nothing candidate because no one thought Trump could win. Here we are yet again. People still really want Trump. No one really wants Biden. Hopefully people dislike Trump enough for Biden to win again, but I'd feel better if we put up someone who people really wanted to win. At least, someone who isn't scaring people with how old he is.
Stop acting like it's a risk to talk about it. Anyone who is legitimately worried about Biden isn't going to vote for Trump. The whole reason to be worried is because you're worried he won't beat Trump. Telling people they don't see what they can literally see with their eyes isn't going to win over people who are on the fence.
That's stupid. If he's the candidate, I would obviously vote for him. As would most people like me who are worried Biden can't win again. It's not possible to gaslight people into believing the problem doesn't exist.
That's silly. His votes among Democrats remains unchallenged for the most part. People aren't energized by him, but it's not like we're hurting him on that front any more than he has.
No, the reason he'll lose is because moderates think he's a drooling moron.
Fun fact, every time someone says that "It's a narrative" or says people shouldn't talk about Biden being a fucking fossil, it makes the Democrats look like clowns.
The ideal voter would be able to talk about this before still voting for Biden (if he's stupid enough to stay in) come November.
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u/ughthat Jul 12 '24
I know I am going to get downvoted for this. And I’d vote for a literal bag of 💩 before I would vote for Trump. But these types of twitter and Facebook posts are just getting infuriating.
They are the worst form of whatabouism that detracts from the actual problem. We get it. Biden is the better choice. She is not going to convince anyone who is set on voting for Trump with this tweet. And it just detracts from the real conversations that should about how we got into this mess in the first place and how we are going to fix it. It’s not like electing either of them is going to fix the completely broken two party system. At this point these Twitter and fb posts are just engagement farming.