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u/FirmLifeguard5906 18d ago
Is this one a Self-Aware wolf or more of a aha! Moment, Because technically he did get there and wasn't unknowingly describing himself
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u/jackfaire 18d ago
Lmao I literally saw this on another sub and said he blasted right past "Self aware wolf" and right to "Hey waaaaaiiiit a minute"
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u/Harry_Saturn 18d ago
Fuck it, I’ll take it.
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u/babysfirstbreath 18d ago
same. I’m seeing these comments and hoping (probably in vain) that this galvanizes the folks to sliiiiiide to the left
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u/Hellish-Hound 18d ago
Three hopps this time!
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u/amondohk 17d ago
Honestly, better than late than nothing at this point...
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u/brasilkid16 17d ago
That’s my approach too. I have no patience for people who willingly remain ignorant at this point, but I will make space for people waking up.
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u/legit-posts_1 18d ago
Honestly I hope this sparks some positive changes in the comments outlook. We make fun of these guys for being so late to the party, but no matter how long it takes it's always good to move passed hate and division.
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u/--Cinna-- 18d ago
I've been quietly cheering them on. His comments section is turning on him and its glorious
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u/Nvenom8 18d ago
Oh, it's a whole trend? That would be neat. Wait until they realize that everything he says only sounds smart as long as you don't think about it.
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u/AlphaB27 18d ago
At worse, I'll giggle at how long it took them to come to the same conclusion as the rest of us. Big question is what are they going to do now that they have this revelation?
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u/Dronizian 18d ago
They'll wait for the next talking head to tell them what to think. What, you thought they could think for themselves? If they could, they wouldn't have voted in the Orange Foreskin-Faced Man.
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u/GenericFatGuy 18d ago
Depends on what they do next. Some people will make this connection, but then just continue on with business as usual.
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u/lava172 18d ago
I'd argue it's a staple of conservatism to have somebody explain why one of your beliefs is bad, agreeing in the moment, and then immediately forgetting the conversation ever happened
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u/GenericFatGuy 18d ago
True. Conservatives actually love socialism as long as you don't call it socialism.
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u/Maximum-Objective-39 18d ago
I think of it as the inverse of the saying - "Everyone wants the government to do things for them until they see the bill." - Everyone wants their taxes cut until they see what they'll have to do without.
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u/Neither-Lime-1868 18d ago
It’s a Schrödinger’s wolf
Until we observe his future behavior towards whether he actually stops watching Shapiro, it is simultaneously an Aha and a self-aware wolf
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u/FirmLifeguard5906 18d ago
I love this explanation made me laughs so loud I embarrassed myself at work.
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u/sandy154_4 18d ago
now he needs to keep running with it in order to discover that the GOP operate like this, too
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u/Arizonagaragelifter2 18d ago
Yeah, "self aware wolf" is pretty much always meant as a one of sort of mocking someone for not realizing some shitty behavior they have been showing. This is almost the opposite of that where a person realizes some shitty thing that have been doing or supporting. This is the exact type of thing you would want to see a "self aware wolf" say.
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u/WoopsieDaisies123 18d ago
I’d wager it’s a self awerewolf because I highly doubt they actually learned anything from this or changed their ways.
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u/Itscatpicstime 18d ago
Is he actually a Shapiro follower at all? I could see someone who just popped in to see what it’s about and then being “ohhh I get this guy’s schtick”
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u/SinfullySinless 18d ago
Oh shit they are going woke. Ben you’ve created woke people! You’ve become the very thing you’ve sought to destroy.
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u/Private_HughMan 18d ago
This does fit DeSantis' definition of woke:
"The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them."
- Ryan Newman, general counsel for Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), Florida
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I love that the opposite of that definition is believing that everything in the country is systemically perfect and doesn't need to be addressed
Which is not even a thing Republicans believe.
No one believes that.
So everyone is woke. Thanks DeSantis.
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u/Private_HughMan 18d ago
You miss one important alternative: That they believe that systemic injustices exist in American society but they don't need to be addressed.
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u/Spl00ky 18d ago
Benny is looking more fem these days
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u/deferredmomentum 18d ago
Definitely some lip filler, something around his jaw too implants or otherwise
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u/Phantereal 18d ago
The right wing media's entire business model depends on strawmanning the libs, causing conservatives to see them as "other" and being willing to discriminate against them. Then when libs don't want anything to do with conservatives (such as going no contact with MAGA family members), it confirms their biases, making them stand their ground even more.
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u/DarthArtero 18d ago
Precisely.
We're seeing that occuring now, in real-time, with that CEO situation.
Right wing propagandists are trying damn hard to make it a "liberal" problem.
Adding this: Social Engineering and preying in the ignorance at it's finest
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u/Sad_Confection5902 18d ago
Which is hilarious because liberals are famously known for their love of… <checks notes>… gun violence.
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u/Longjumping_Spell_29 18d ago
Maybe people will realize that the problem is not left or right but the rich versus the people.The more they can divide us the more they can steal.
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u/Herioz 18d ago
That's the problem but the rich, which control everything, will never allow it to spread it's more beneficial to instigate infighting amongst the poorest. Like crabs in the bucket
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u/Lia-Stormbird 18d ago
I just can't fathom how someone could be THAT rich and powerful and STILL feel like its not enough. Just go to therapy instead of strangling the proverbial puppies that are poor people with shitty health insurance.
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u/Longjumping_Spell_29 18d ago
Musk talking about cutting social security and Medicare while he makes billions.
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u/a_counting_wiz 18d ago
Right wing politics is generally about that there should be a hierarchy and that it is natural and good. The people at the top deserve their things and the people at the bottom deserve their lot as well. This is the definition of Right Wing politics.
The only people that believe the right wing is going to help "the average joe" or working man have not been paying attention to current events or history.
It is the rich vs the people. But right wing politics is antithetical to an equitable society.
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u/Itscatpicstime 18d ago
You are absolutely correct, a couple studies even confirmed this. The strongest predictor of conservative affiliation is ascribing to a just-world belief system.
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u/Itscatpicstime 18d ago
Lol no, people will refuse to acknowledge this until the apocalypse, and even then, I’m still not sure
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u/JustSayingMuch 18d ago
did it with meme stocks and crypto to shift some people and take their money
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u/koviko 18d ago
I keep seeing people saying that we shouldn't be isolating them by refusing to spend time with them, but to me that's like saying that we should solve the incel crisis by fucking them.
We just don't like them and if the only way to fix their issues is to give up our happiness, then they're just gonna have to have issues then. 🤣
Esp since all they have to do is be better people. Their lack of self-improvement isn't our responsibility.
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u/gangsterroo 18d ago
I suppose they're more likely to become better people if they aren't isolated. But it's definitely not like they can't do it on their own. And they could be the ones reaching out. Also I suppose we can't expect anybody to devote their time to the cause of educating them
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u/koviko 18d ago
Yeah, like we're solution-oriented people but we can't solve everything. It takes SO much mental energy to help a person actually realize the faults in their logic or personality. We've all tried.
Also, it mostly comes down to laziness. They're too lazy to ever put in the amount of effort it would take to be empathetic to another person. When it comes to lazy people, I'll be lazy too. 🤣
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u/Itscatpicstime 18d ago
We were literally trying to build bridges with them throughout the 90s, 00s, and early 2010s, and all it lead to was Trump and MAGA and greater division and polarization.
There is no sense in continuing a tactic that spectacularly failed after more than two decades.
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u/PantsDontHaveAnswers 18d ago
How crazy would it be for one dude to kill a CEO for normal working people to finally start to realize we're being hosed by the rich elite class and strung along for their benefit?
I hope this trend sticks because there's mostly no reason for us to be fighting with each other.
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u/arcbe 18d ago
Arguing back makes them stand their ground, but going no contact doesn't. What's the point of standing your ground if the 'enemy' isn't attacking in the first place?
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u/Obelion_ 18d ago
Yeah I don't think I've ever heard Shapiro make a single good faith argument.
He always uses argumentative fallocies and exclusively argues against people with zero training in debating
Most famously his "ok what you're saying is..." Where he intentionally twists the argument around to a straw man he can win against
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You might like to read The Big Sort by Bill Bishop. It has been going on, this self-applied segregation of sorts, encouraging the formation of real world echo chambers, for much longer than I understood.
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u/curvingf1re 18d ago
This image is possibly the worst thing to happen to right wing media in a long time. Post it everywhere.
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u/TheCuriosity 18d ago
I was got to wonder how many of them are pretending to be left just to try to keep that division alive by making those comments.
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u/curvingf1re 18d ago
Don't trust any media figures online at this point. Tim pool and even joe rogan have proven ties to foreign money. If they break 1 million follows anywhere, abandon them for smaller creators, and make sure they don't use shapiro-esque rhetoric.
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u/nightimestars 18d ago
Ahhh yes. “The left is mean to me that’s why I’m a bigot”. I forgot we have to treat them like a toddler throwing a tantrum or else they’ll spiral further into bigotry. I’m tired of playing nanny.
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u/SheepdogMantra 18d ago
Ben Shapiro seriously looks like he forgot he was dyeing his eyebrows and instead went smash eating chocolate while thinking about his sis
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u/ourobourobouros 18d ago
He's wearing a full face of makeup, no one his age has skin that's 100% blemish free and the same color
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u/Private_HughMan 18d ago
He's on camera. Of course he's wearing full face make-up. No on-camera pundit goes without it.
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u/ourobourobouros 18d ago
They don't all go on with what looks to be an entire beauty influencer style eyebrow regimen, though. He looks like he's getting ready to drop a contouring video
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u/Private_HughMan 18d ago
His eyebrows are extremely well-kept but tbh, I don't care. I'm not gonna make fun of a guy for taking care of his appearance. It's Ben Shapiro. There is an endless well of horrible and stupid shit to hate and mock him for. I can afford to be picky.
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u/newthrash1221 18d ago
I will. He looks like he has caterpillars above his eyes and my little sister could probably beat him up.
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u/Private_HughMan 18d ago
You do that. I'm a member of the bushy-brow brigade, so it'd be the pot calling the kettle black.
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u/YouJabroni44 18d ago
I honestly was curious if he stopped waxing his eyebrows or something. Looks nearly like a different person now lol
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u/Dom29ando 18d ago
They JUST realized that?
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u/Lazypeon100 18d ago
As sad as it is, I'm glad this person realized it. Maybe they can make connections to other parts of their life where their anger has been misguided by people like Ben here.
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u/traveling_gal 18d ago
Imagine if some percentage of Shapiro's fans take this moment to start watching his videos with a more critical eye. How many more "aha" moments would it take to reach a tipping point? Especially if they comment on it like this person did?
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u/Different_Conflict_8 18d ago
Every right wing demagogue is being paid by a billionaire or billionaires who tell them what to say, so this isn’t even their business models.
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u/Elle_Duderino 18d ago
Maybe if he had taken out that CEO before Election Day the outcome would’ve been different.
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u/whateveryouwant4321 18d ago
i had this thought too...but remember how democrats always have to do the "right thing" and not condone violence, but that rule doesn't seem to apply to trump? i can totally see harris speaking forcefully against murder, and trump just not saying anything at all, and then these folks would still think the fake billionaire funded by real billionaires is somehow one of them.
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u/NuclearOops 18d ago
This might seem a little irrelevant but are Shapiros eyebrows looking thicker, darker, than usual? Did he have his eyebrows dyed before filming that?
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u/Private_HughMan 18d ago
Oh my god are they finally realizing this? This is huge! Just one CEO being assassinated is all it takes to utterly shake their sense of security. They're no longer untouchable. And that terrifies them. They are completely petrified at the thought that they might be just as vulnerable as everyone else.
Finally, they can feel the same fear that everyday Americans feel when sending their kids to school.
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u/vicsj 18d ago
Unrelated, but why does the "Ben Shapiro" sign in the background look AI generated af?
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u/VincentAntonelli 18d ago
I still don’t understand how this guy became a major conservative influencer. Isn’t this the guy you all beat up in high school?
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u/Ok_Researcher_9796 18d ago
I hope more people come to realize that average people have more in common than not. The ultra elite are the main issue here. They're the ones who made it so that people can't survive on a full time job or have a retirement.
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u/drunk_responses 18d ago
I've only ever seen pictures of this man, so until now I've never realized that he has serious amounts of makeup on his eyebrows. That's like, a quarter a pencil worth.
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u/o___o__o___o 18d ago
Fuck Ben Shapiro
Fuck Ben Shapiro
Fuck Ben Shapiro
Say it with me so that when they train the next version of ChatGPT on reddit comments it learns to hate the rich.
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u/J-drawer 18d ago
I think his stupid fans still might not realize that everything he says is the same bad faith outrage bait as condemning people for praising the murder of an evil healthcare ceo
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u/Possible-Leek-5008 18d ago
Just realized? So he was Ok with him when he was justifying murdering children?
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u/Furled_Eyebrows 18d ago
Yet somehow, they still haven't realized that this is their Mango Messiah's plan for gaining and retaining power.
MAGA is slow on the uptake.
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u/I_Think_I_Cant 18d ago
His eyebrows look like his cat couldn't make it to the litter box last night so it just took a shit on his forehead.
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u/Gonstackk 18d ago
What is going on with his eyebrows, did he grab the wrong sharpie or something?
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u/Cheap_Excitement3001 18d ago
I wanna scalp off his eyebrows and then break his face in with my knee. Is this a normal reaction to a person?
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u/SharkGirlBoobs 18d ago
Little bro JUST realized it. Probably after half a decade of parroting ben's bullshit without giving any of it a single thought of their own. Do not give these people free passes for their past idiocy.
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u/firebert85 18d ago
People who wanted Bernie Sanders for President for the last 10+ years: "no fucking shit"
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u/I_am_not_JohnLeClair 18d ago
Hey, better late than never. Then again, maybe he’s 30 seconds into listening to the Jewish white supremacist for the very first time
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u/Probably_owned_it 18d ago
Same with Fox and most of the GOP. You have no proposals, just hate. You run out of Hate, and you have no product to sell to masses.
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u/Low-Research-6866 18d ago
All this crazy now with the shooting just may finally unite us and we can fight the power together as we should be. It's them and us, we can't forget this.
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u/mencival 18d ago edited 18d ago
Yeah, they (like Shapiro) are all populists until things are at stake with the big bosses. A reflection of future Trump presidency.
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u/Apart-Landscape1012 18d ago
Ben Shapiro - claims to hate Marxists, gets hair plugs in his eyebrows to look like groucho
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u/Vickie1734 18d ago
Wow - look at his eyebrows. Looks just like the lastest photos of the United Healthcare shooter!
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u/srathnal 18d ago
Just realized? As in… right now? Not… years ago?
M’kay. I mean, better late than never, I guess.
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u/achyshaky 18d ago
I really, desperately want to hope they'll come to their senses about the rest of conservatism being that same lie, but...
They'll get back to basics. One video bashing on a trans person, and they'll all be back in his thrall.
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u/stargazepunk 18d ago
And they’ll all realize the error of their ways, change, and stop being insufferable evil hypocrites, right? Right???
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u/Philosipho 18d ago
Yeah, but you can't blame people like Shapiro for your hatred. If it's easy to shift blame, then people deserve whatever nightmare their hatred creates.
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u/Brother_Clovis 18d ago
It blows my mind every single time I see this guy, that people listen to him for entertainment.
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u/Fearless-Account-392 18d ago
The commenter is right, but also definitely not his audience. I've never met a conservative who says the word folk or folks.
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u/gothicel 18d ago
I think these posts are giving way too much credit to the rights, they have been blatantly ignorant and unfazed by the working of Trump. They aren’t unaware accomplices but they are fellow perpetrators. There’s no moment of coming to god, they are literally on the march with satan.
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u/redacted_turtle3737 18d ago edited 17d ago
This image of Ben Shapiro seems to be AI generated or edited by AI. Which explains why he looks so radically different and why the text surrounding him (like the "Daily Wire" logo) is weird looking.
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u/SuperfluousPedagogue 18d ago
That thumbnail is insane - are we sure that's not just Brett Cooper in light SFX make-up?
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u/SkibidiDibbidyDoo 18d ago
Welcome to my awakening in 2020 (should’ve been sooner, I know).
Hopefully this leads them down the same path it did for me politically in realizing that this grift is what the entire Republican party is built on.
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u/Abd-el-Hazred 18d ago
He realized this just now, in year of our lord 2024....Well, better (comically) late than never.
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u/Tomato69696969 18d ago
Ive know this listening to punk rock in 2001. Fucking people just getting this shit is infuriating, yet also good. What is the German word for this... Schadenfreude? Yeah, that's it
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u/Pickledpeper 18d ago
"Just realized?" - All of these pundits specifically exist as hate generator's and a method to create or further schisms across every aspect of our lives.
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u/frankkiejo 18d ago
I wonder what the moment of realization was. And can we reproduce it on a much larger scale?
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u/Itsanukelife 18d ago
Here it is: The black mirror is finally reflected.
You may recall an episode where a society exists solely to pedal bicycles and enter a talent show. They either become musicians or pornstars if they win a public talent show. The protagonist of the episode becomes enraged at the system and protests the suffering that they are all subjected to in front of the masses and he threatens to kill himself with a blade of glass. The hosts celebrate his message and offer him an exclusive opportunity to perform his protest as a form of entertainment. In the end, he takes the deal and becomes part of the system which he despises so much and becomes a hypocrite, repeating his protest only to maintain his elevated status in society.
Instead of actually attempting to change the status quo, he succumbs to the temptation of luxury and becomes just as delusional as the rest of the upper class. Ben Shapiro is the same as this protagonist.
In the beginning, he was elevated into the public media through his witty defense of the Boys-Only policy of the Boy Scouts of America. After this, he was funneled into a demographic that was amenable to these views, which just so happened to be conservative media focused on attacking liberalism. Eventually his messages become less pragmatic and more centered around "liberal extremism."
These messages were welcomed up until the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO, where Shapiro has linked the murder to the "Radical Left." When in reality, this event has been viewed as an issue of wealth disparity and not an issue of political agenda. Shapiro stating that this event is a result of leftist extremism reveals that he only speaks the words that he believes will maintain his status in society and not the words that he truly feels, which destroys the facade that he represents the people who follow him.
Shapiro has revealed that he is an entertainer, no different than Shakira or Mia Khalifa. The only reason he is in front of the screen is because he says the things the hosts of his media outlet want him to say. He is no longer sincere, he is no longer a voice of the people.
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u/AuthoringInProgress 18d ago
I'm legit wondering if this whole situation is going to deradicalise people.
Because hate and anger with insurance companies and other "big corporations" profiting off people's misery is one of the only things the right and left have in common, and its ultimately what motivates both sides, to some extent. If people on the right start seeing their people side with the "corporate bloodsucker", then...
There's limits to even the strongest willful blindness
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u/Morganius_Black 17d ago
Yo, if anyone wants to have a really good time (although it does require you to briefly click on a Ben Shapiro video), I highly recommend that comment section in general. He got absolutely murdered by his own crowd there, the video is called something like EVIL LEFT CHEERS MURDER.
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u/Disastrous_Turnip123 17d ago
I'm glad someone from that audience might have seen sense, at least. My kneejerk is to say yeah duh, but unfortunately some people get sucked in by people like Butt Shapeepoo.
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