r/USdefaultism • u/savvy_Idgit • 12d ago
Reddit "American App"
Sigh, maybe I shouldn't have taken the ragebait and just lived my life.
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u/dwylth 11d ago
Famously the US government (well, the supreme court, but let's not pick nits) defined (hardcore) pornography as "I know it when I see it" so lol
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u/Scrounger888 Canada 11d ago
But they have to watch it a few times "just to be sure."
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u/SoloMarko England 11d ago
I think the first rule to help define that it is porn would be, 'I can see it going in!'.
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u/nomadic_weeb 10d ago
So recording a handjob is fine then?
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u/SoloMarko England 9d ago
I never got past thinking about the first rule. I was trying to be funny, but I never realised I was actually on the choosing panel.
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u/SrirachaGamer87 11d ago
Well, to be honest, this is kinda true. It's easy to say that porn is filmed sex acts, but not every filmed sex act is porn. Hell, porn doesn't even have to contain anything most people would consider sexy. I once stumbled upon a video of a woman sitting on cakes. This doesn't obviously look like porn, but you could just feel the "porny" vibes radiating off it. Even pictures of feet can be porn, so I kinda like that definition.
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u/Top_Owl3508 Germany 11d ago
do people really think a porn ban does anything but make the industry even more unsafe? how about we fucking regulate it like any other industry? people are getting more puritannical every year it feels like.
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u/radio_allah Hong Kong 11d ago
Exactly, people need what people need, so porn will always be a thing as long as sex is a thing. Legalising it enables porn to be regulated, and this is the best way to stop exploitation in the industry.
Of course on the other hand, the safest thing politically is to pretend, like everyone else, that porn is something outrageously degenerate that you've never heard of.
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u/ChickinSammich United States 11d ago
Banning porn isn't about the porn industry. Banning porn is about:
1) Ban porn.
2) Define "being gay or transgender" as "inherently pornographic"
3) LGBTQ people are now sex offenders and it is now illegal to teach or talk about them
They don't actually give a shit about the porn industry, but if they just come out and say "we want to ban LGBTQ people from existing or being talked about" then it wouldn't have as much support. The US federal legislature just got bipartisan support for legislation to "protect kids from pornography online" and part of the wish list agenda of the incoming administration is defining LGBTQ people as pornographic.
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u/Top_Owl3508 Germany 11d ago
yeah I'm talking about regular people online though and not legislators. jesus christ
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u/ChickinSammich United States 11d ago
Even online and even in the context of "regular people," I think a lot of people think that a ban on something makes it just go away and don't realize that if you make something illegal, it will continue to exist; it'll just become more dangerous. Drugs, alcohol, porn, guns, gambling... I've always been an advocate for legalizing and regulating vices because it not only makes them safer when they're more out in the open, it also makes it easier to get help with things like addiction when you don't have to admit that you're committing a lot of crimes over and over in order to ask for help.
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u/Top_Owl3508 Germany 11d ago
that is literally what i said in my comment. i'm gonna be honest, i don't appreciate you deliberately misunderstanding me and proceeding to yanksplain some shit to me that i'm very well aware of, since i have a BA in the sociological field. good day.
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u/ChickinSammich United States 11d ago
Sorry, I wasn't "deliberately" misunderstanding you. I was just regular misunderstanding you. Have a nice day as well.
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u/TheKingsdread Germany 11d ago
Sex work has always existed pretty much since the dawn of man. When its illegal its bad for both workers and consumers. Porn would not disappear it would just move somewhere else where its more dangerous. And those people who consume it, will find other outlets for their vice. Hopefully less dangerous ones, but there are probably people who will start to engage in sexual harassment or assault.
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u/Top_Owl3508 Germany 11d ago
almost every woman already has a story about harassment or assault, i don't think a porn ban would worsen things much on that particular front
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u/TheKingsdread Germany 11d ago
Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't. Why risk it? Plus disenfranchised women are usually the ones most heavily impacted by unsafe sex work. So while it might not affect the average woman, it will certainly affect those who already have it worst.
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u/Top_Owl3508 Germany 11d ago
no i agree, it would be very stupid. i'm worried about young people who so easily get sucked into a SWERFy echo chamber on tiktok :/
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u/TheKingsdread Germany 11d ago
That is unfortunately how it is. Youth has always been the ones to influence most easily as they have not yet formed solid stances on things, and that can be both good and bad. Sometimes they are the first to adapt on new good ideas and movements, and sometimes they are manipulated by malicious movements for their own gain.
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u/Rixgames69 11d ago
It's kinda funny that you see this on that subreddit. Apparently no stupid questions doesn't automatically mean no stupid answers lol
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u/HurstiesFitness 11d ago
But annoyingly, the person calling out the defaultism still used the “English simplified” spelling of centre.
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u/funkthew0rld Canada 11d ago
People who call a website an app 🤣
Great job educating your citizens over there.
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u/jasperfirecai2 11d ago
a website is an application in that there is code running to give you your page. doesn't matter if it's server side or client side. web sites and web apps are somewhat distinct but nonetheless you interact with some application that isn't your browser itself to use it.
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u/ExpressionExternal95 11d ago edited 11d ago
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u/CelestialSegfault Indonesia 11d ago
"third world country" isn't and shouldn't be an insult. placing countries that are fucked over and countries that fucked them over in the same category is.
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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 11d ago
And guess what, it wasn't. Up until the Cold War ended and the division into 3 worlds lost its meaning. People were more than happy then to immediately misappropriate it.
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u/CelestialSegfault Indonesia 11d ago
assuming people are still using the old definition would be deliberate ignorance. no, we're apparently so piss-poor that white people use us as an insult. the same people whose ancestors made us the way we are.
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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 11d ago
Oh, I know that we do. I'm just saying that it's dumb of us. Especially when some of the third world countries now fare better than certain first and second world ones.
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u/savvy_Idgit 11d ago
I initially thought it was apt to turn it around on the kind of person who would likely look down on developing countries in a similar way, but you're right. It really shouldn't be used as an insult period.
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u/lettsten Europe 11d ago
There's a lot of bad things to say about Trump, but is there any evidence whatsoever that he's aroused by prepubescent children?
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u/ELMUNECODETACOMA 11d ago
Technically, his sexual attraction toward his own early-teen daughter and toward the Miss Teen America pageant contestants he famously bragged about barging into the dressing room of were not prepubescent children, rather pubescent children.
So it's _ephebophilia_ not _pedophilia_. Which completely exonerates him /s.
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u/savvy_Idgit 11d ago
He is a rapist and molester for sure, and he had pretty close ties with Epstein, but no direct evidence I think, no.
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u/lettsten Europe 11d ago
You know it's pretty bad when he's "just" a rapist and molester who's bragging about pussygrabbing
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u/A_Guy_2726 11d ago
Pretty close as in he banned Epstein for his club before he was charged and stopped hanging out with him
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u/radio_allah Hong Kong 11d ago edited 11d ago
I mean, do people ever let little things like facts get in the way of calling other people names? In 2024, anyone you don't like is a rapist-homophobe-transphobe-nazi-pedophile-satan-worshipper.
As I hereby declare whomever downvoted this comment to be. And you're a Trump voter too, because I said so!
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u/TheAussieTico Australia 11d ago
Found the Trump voter
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u/lettsten Europe 11d ago
Sad but true. How to win any internet discussion: 1) Make up a name for your opponent. 2) Make it socially unacceptable to be called that name. 3) Call your opponent that.
You also forgot "republican", "communist", "leftist", "socialist", "antifa", "BIPOC", "fascist", "autist" etc. etc. etc.
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u/lunarwolf2008 11d ago
whats autist?
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u/lettsten Europe 11d ago
In reality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autist
Online: Anyone who does something someone wants to label "autist" for whatever reason
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u/lunarwolf2008 11d ago
oh, short for autistic. also wikipedia has a whole page on how autistic people are more likey to be gay?? (linked in the page you linked)
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u/lettsten Europe 11d ago
No, it's a noun, like the other terms. Yes, some of them are adjectives as well.
Wikipedia has whole pages on a lot of things... that's the downside of being free for all, I guess
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u/TheFlaccidChode 11d ago
Let's see how many people use your little app without the British world wide web
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u/stamsiteminecraftpro Sweden 6d ago
The internet is swiss and Spotify is swedish so only swiss should even get to search things and only swedish music on spotify
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u/juanito_f90 11d ago
I can’t take anyone seriously who spells centre as center.
I think Gen Z call this “an ick”?
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u/savvy_Idgit 11d ago
They are both correct although ironically, center is American English. I thought it was the other way round, dang.
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u/juanito_f90 11d ago
Yes, incorrect English.
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u/savvy_Idgit 11d ago
Who cares? It's language. I personally hope we can settle on something consistent so there's less confusion. Don't care if it's American or British.
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u/TheAussieTico Australia 11d ago
Why on earth are you getting downvoted?
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u/SomePyro_9012 Spain 9d ago
Implying that one regional dialect/variation of a language is inherently wrong, I think
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u/TheAussieTico Australia 8d ago
English is from England
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u/SomePyro_9012 Spain 8d ago
Spanish is from Spain, you don't see Spaniards correcting Mexicans when they say "celular" instead of "teléfono" nor saying they are inherently wrong
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u/TheAussieTico Australia 8d ago
“Cellular” is a stupid word for a mobile phone
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u/SomePyro_9012 Spain 8d ago
You think that because you don't know the history behind it
Just as I think "Macca's" is a weird nickname for McDonald's
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u/SomePyro_9012 Spain 9d ago
What, "color" and "gray" are incorrect too?
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u/juanito_f90 9d ago
Yes.
Colour. Grey.
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u/SomePyro_9012 Spain 9d ago
So you consider the spelling differences in American English to be inherently wrong?
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u/USDefaultismBot American Citizen 12d ago edited 11d ago
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Poster thinks the US government gets to dictate laws on a post non-specific to the US, and calls Reddit an American app when called out
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