r/OnePieceTC • u/Atsuroz www.youtube.com/AsianGuyOPTC • Jan 08 '20
JPN PSA New Limit Break+ info
Mihawk V1:
CD -4, +200 attack, +350 HP, +75 RCV
Captain changes: 3.5x max attack -> 3.75x max attack with increased matching orb rate
Lucci V1:
CD-7, +300 attack, +600 HP
Captain changes: 3.5x attack -> 3.75x attack
Jinbe V1:
CD -2, +200 attack, +500 HP
Captain changes: 3x attack -> 3.5x attack and 15% damage reduction
Fujitora V1:
CD -2, +200 attack, +500 HP
Captain changes: 3x attack -> 3.5x attack
Inuarashi:
CD -4, +200 attack, +350 HP, +75 RCV
Captain changes: 3x attack -> 3.25x attack, STR slots beneficial
Nekomamushi:
CD -1, +200 attack, +350 HP, +75 RCV
Captain changes: Increased rate of color orbs, make PSY orbs beneficial
Franky:
CD -2, +200 attack, +500 HP, +50 RCV
Captain changes: 3.25x attack -> 3.5x attack
Luffy/Ace:
CD -2, +200 attack, +500HP, +100 RCV
You can find the RR and TM list here if you scroll down, the order of changes are cooldown -> attack -> HP -> RCV: https://xn--pck6bvfc.gamewith.jp/article/show/66928
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u/TheShadiestOfLamps Pudding-chan Best Girl! Jan 08 '20
Wow, Lucci is going to be on a 5 turn cooldown now, that's actually pretty interesting. You get 3 turns of increased matching orb rate from him so being able to use that every 5 turns could be interesting.
If only it didn't cost so much to do LB+...
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u/SirVampyr Warlord of Sugos, Aim for "Reds" Jan 08 '20
Thing is, you need his special in order for him to work as a captain at all. Rendering you short if 1 special or 2 if you decide to run double V1 Lucci... Actually still really bad.
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u/Majukun flair? Jan 08 '20
I think only real usage would be as a counter to bad matching orbs debuff, since they can't be applied by a boss if another one is already active
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u/fabrizioB97 Promising Rookie Jan 08 '20
Increase matching orb rate and beneficial orb treating are not the same thing...
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u/Majukun flair? Jan 08 '20
Oh you are right. I was thinking about another occasion where I used him like that, but was against an increased un matching orb rates, not against an 'make x orbs unmatching' debuff
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u/adssdk Promising Rookie Jan 08 '20
Pretty good updates and V1 Fujitora has still the chance to get another upgrade with his 6+
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u/KillJoy-Player Jan 08 '20
I don't know what to say with Nekomamushi's, beneficial orb even one is fine but an upgrade that won't benefit his 6+ something I can't understand, that is unless it's an upgrade on chance on his 6+'s case.
Jinbe's cool. A literal tank there.
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u/babeeyodaa Promising Rookie Jan 08 '20
Jinbe's cool. A literal tank there
Yet still cant make the title screen with his crewmates. :(
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u/Whadafaag ~Donuts~ Jan 08 '20
Holy shit, that franky update is wild.
3.5x universal atk, with 1.25x hp and ,rcv, tnd orbs matching + his captain action.
Nice
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u/kabutozero twitch.tv/kabutozero 356,203,034 SUUUUUUUUUUPER Jan 08 '20
IT IS
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
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u/Fuetlinger Jan 08 '20
Franky is an universal captain?
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u/kabutozero twitch.tv/kabutozero 356,203,034 SUUUUUUUUUUPER Jan 08 '20
NOT TECHNICALLY , BUT ALMOST. At the time of his + he could use 93% of the subs in the game
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u/batiwa Promising Rookie Jan 08 '20
Yes, but you need a character with each 2nd classes IIRC (Striker Slasher etc...)
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u/Fuetlinger Jan 08 '20
So he is class restricted and not an universal captain right?
For me Luffy/Law, the new Sanji.. those are universal captains because you can just put on anybody without thinking.
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u/kabutozero twitch.tv/kabutozero 356,203,034 SUUUUUUUUUUPER Jan 08 '20
you can , but technically some subs will restrict you of using them if they ask for a captain of X class or color or X subs for their specials. So you cant still put anyone
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u/simbast21 Jan 08 '20
you use the word technically wrong. They’re more or less beatsticks at that point.
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u/Whadafaag ~Donuts~ Jan 08 '20
Since almost all units have a primary class (fighter, slasher, shooter, striker) and a secondary class, he is universal.
Since he fullfils shooter, you need 3 other classes, which is easy to do.
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u/garubezu Jan 08 '20 edited Jan 08 '20
Since he fullfils shooter, you need 3 other classes
you're thinking of legend BB.
for Franky, as long as the unit have one of those four classes.
for example, you can go full shooter team, or all fighter class(except for Franky himself obviously)2
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u/Fuetlinger Jan 08 '20
I believe you guys, I was just interested in the whole "universal" wording in general.
Thanks for the heads up(s)
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u/b00ndesn00b Jan 08 '20 edited Jan 08 '20
The way they handle those LB+ is so inconsistent. This is a pretty good batch giving some older legends a decent upgrade, however the last one like LL, V1 Boa and V1 WB were trash. They should really overhaul those to give them a similar buff as this batch.
Also the semi-decent or still very good legends (e.g. Luffy/Ace in this batch) are also kind of screwed in the long run, because they can only hope for their 6+ for an actual buff now. Most newer legends just don't need an LB+ right now.
As for the boosts for the RR, they only got CDR and stat boosts so far. The most interesting could be STR Moria who went to 9 CD and already had a CD reducing sailor.
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u/roll1ngsky Promising Rookie Jan 08 '20 edited Jan 08 '20
well if you think about it..... what they do with lb+ with the legends really doesn't matter. Let's be real here for a moment how much of the player base has enough lb materials to double lb most legends....NONE. And with pretty much a new busted legend every month or so there really isn't a need to double limit break older legends (even if they get CA boosted). Not saying bandai should go ahead and disappoint us like they did with LL and luffy/ace but...........for the general player base.... does it reaaaally matter?
but i agree...my boi luffy/ace got shafted
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u/WootieOPTC GLO: [SNY] Usoland crew / JP: Wootie Jan 08 '20
When you see the various CA updates
And then, you see Luffy&Ace's update
Seriously, why are they even in the list...they didn't need LB+ yet, but are now doomed...
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u/Devin__ 849933586 Jan 08 '20
Can't say they're doomed until they get a 6+ as bad as Lucy's.
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u/WootieOPTC GLO: [SNY] Usoland crew / JP: Wootie Jan 08 '20
But Lucy on the other hand, could still get a LB+, so it goes both ways ^^
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u/Devin__ 849933586 Jan 08 '20
Alternatively, they could be doomed in the sense of their eventual 6+ artwork being that scene. ;)
"You monster!" replies inc.
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u/QcPacmanVDL Sexy Pretzel Jan 08 '20
Using that scene would be a nerf, would make my cry every time and wouldn't be able to hit my perfects
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u/WootieOPTC GLO: [SNY] Usoland crew / JP: Wootie Jan 08 '20
"Best" would be : using the special, we see that "special" scene, and the effect of the special : transforms for 99 turns into "dual" unit, and for 99 turns, binds+despair+silence+orb seal on the unit xD
tries not to cry
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u/resident_dmc Jan 08 '20
I don't understand.. Does Bandai hate Boa so much.? Pretty much every other outdated legend is getting a solid 3+ captain multiplier upgrade while Boa was left untouched.. Feelsbadman.. :(
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u/Fideliast Jan 08 '20
It does almost seem like Bandai wants some legends to stay crap tbh, so when you pull them you feel like shit and they get their pleasure
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u/arcrontux Jan 08 '20
Wow, Bandai did a pretty good job this time.
Legends I'm overall happy about. Not sure who to LB, but about half of them are possible options. To me Franky sticks out the most though (was already used before, now even more damage and can use many strong friend caps).
TM Jack hits crazy stats now, CD reduction also appreciated and don't know that many TM units that actually need a key.
But man, those RRs. Only stats and CD, but really good ones. Lucci/Kaku, Perospero, TS Nami, Chiffon, Iva/Bon or Ain all get great updates. Some of those now hit Legend-level Atk stats and the CD reduction on top is just amazing.
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u/FateOfMuffins Doktah Carrot Muffins Jan 08 '20
Their CA changes might seem interesting at first, but remember, LB+ changes are for absolute end game players. Under no circumstances would anyone need any of these upgrades for older Legends because almost surely you'll have better captains regardless. Unless the changes were absolutely broken (say if V1 Lucci became 4.5x instead), they're not intended for these units to become "meta".
So 2 recommendations from me:
Only LB+ one of these if you really like that unit, say Franky for whatever reason.
Wait until one of these units are boosted in some event, where they'll be one of the best alternatives if you didn't whale for boosters (for example BB in the Yonko Blitz)
Otherwise, I'd even use the keys on one of the newer Legends who only get -1CD over these guys with CA upgrades. Reminder that no matter how many keys you get, the number of LB+ you can do is completely gated by the number of small shards. You can only hold 999 but each LB+ costs 400.
RR LB+ will be interesting, depending on how much they cost. Absolutely not worth if they cost anywhere near Legends, but absolutely worth it if they cost somewhat like TM units.
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u/Nishinoja Promising Rookie Jan 10 '20
I'd never use them on newer legends. Their upgrades don't change anything at all. At least with older ones you can play with captains you haven't played in months or years. Other than for fun I don't see a use for the keys right now.
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u/Doffy-Mingo Mingo!!!!! Jan 08 '20
Honestly Speaking, Jinbe is probably one of my favorite legends now. He was technically my first legend back during my global days, but seeing how far he’s gone is impressive. His 6+ Revived him as a sub, and I’ve seen increasing use of him since his release. Now, on top of all that, he gets a LB Key that pushes his captain past that shitty 3x boost, made him literally one of if not THE tankiess captain in the game, and reduced his cool down to 9 turns? It’s great to see how far he’s come. Only thing is, he would be a great unit for newer players, captain and all, but getting him 6+ AND maxing the LB would be much to impossible for them.
Honestly, if he had matching orbs in his captain ability or maybe some slightly better LB Abilities, I’d say he is a better captain than his V2. I just wish he kept his damn rainbow shark.
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Jan 09 '20
I've completely missed the introduction of LB+... it looks like whale or end END game stuff? Either way, I have missed a lot of TMs and don't have the material to LB any units even if I had those keys.
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u/kabutozero twitch.tv/kabutozero 356,203,034 SUUUUUUUUUUPER Jan 08 '20
NANANANANAANANANIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII?!?!?!
WHAT ?!?!?!!?
QUE ?!?!?!?!
COM?!?!?!?!
Holy mother of bazingas WHAT IN THE HELL BANDAI , You better not ban me because I might as well go to japan in that case
THIS IS ME RIGHT NOW (NO , LITERALLY ITS ME)
THAT FRANKY LB+ !?!? HELLO ? I know he's not on the same scale as the broken legends released lately but HOLY MOLY
13 turns cd , now he's not one of the slowest specials in your team
200 atk which is the standard for LB+ but franky already had a high atk amount as he was released on the powercreep era
500 HP , FRANKY IS STILL 4th IN HP TO THIS DATE
+50 RC..Psh I mean who cares for that.
0.25 INCREASE AS CAPTAIN ? PLEASE , SOMEONE TELL ME IT STACKS WITH HIS CA.
This literally a godamn SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER UPGRADE
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u/Rincewind9 Promising Rookie Jan 08 '20
So ridiculous and awkward, respect yourself
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u/KingKami02 Promising Rookie Jan 08 '20
I like how you make fun of how passionate he is. God forbid he has a personality. Hehe cringe based boomer xd.
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u/kabutozero twitch.tv/kabutozero 356,203,034 SUUUUUUUUUUPER Jan 08 '20 edited Jan 08 '20
EDIT: Ok boomer
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u/babeeyodaa Promising Rookie Jan 08 '20
Lol the only ones without CA change are the most OP of the group. Lol they know.
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u/babeeyodaa Promising Rookie Jan 08 '20 edited Jan 08 '20
Just a reminder. Time is almost up for the Garp Challenge
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u/pitanger The hunt is over. Jan 08 '20
Weird, they are giving V1 Fuji a better CA before his 6+ ?
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u/Neoriceisgood Jan 08 '20
They've done that since the start with the Keys; see legend blackbeard.
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u/SirVampyr Warlord of Sugos, Aim for "Reds" Jan 08 '20
RIP Fuji. Yes, 3,5x is a good multiplier, but a 2x without matching orb is his downfall. Should've boosted his base too. And idk if we will ever get a 6+ for him, now that this has released.
Frankys increase is wild though. Really cool.
Also V1 Jinbe is really good + an absolute unit of a tank right now.
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u/Sokkathelastbender Jan 08 '20
6* and 6+ characters have different improved captain abilities from these lbs so there's still a chance he will get one
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u/SirVampyr Warlord of Sugos, Aim for "Reds" Jan 08 '20
Really? Never read that. Can you give an example?
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u/Sokkathelastbender Jan 08 '20
Only one so far is 6* and 6+ ace, 6* goes to 3.5x with orb, 3x otherwise, while 6+ goes to 3.75x, 3.5x otherwise
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u/HeavenlySkyDragon Promising Rookie Jan 08 '20
Luffy/Ace could've been better, they could've make them boost ATK by x4.5 when they're in their dual form.
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u/Jojoisnotdumb Promising Rookie Jan 08 '20
Dude I was so prepared to be disappointed because of how they handled Log Luffy but this is great