r/NewsAndPolitics • u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ United States • Aug 10 '24
Social Commentary Egyptian comedian & political satirist Bassem Youssef explains why people talk about the Israel/Palestine issue so much.
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u/Consistent-Assist-77 Aug 10 '24
We send our tax $$$ to 🇮🇱, and a big portion of it’s funneled right back thru AIPAC into political Super PAC , so all the poor hard working 🇺🇸 politicians can feed their Poor children and send them to Private schools and help NRA exist and supply more weapons right back to 🇮🇱 . Scams up and down the system, when you see these flags 🇺🇸 🇮🇱 together, it’s not UNITY, it’s the 2024 Genocide of a of innocent Arab Families. Real Shame.
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u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ United States Aug 10 '24
American-made weapons were used by Israel in its bombing of a school earlier today, which killed 100+ Palestinians.
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 10 '24
When they quit launching rockets from schools, they will quit exploding. Not until then, though.
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u/Raze_the_werewolf Aug 10 '24
^ This guy genocides.
They must have launched rockets from every single school and hospital. Quite the coordinated effort on the part of Hamas. It's no wonder you guys are having so much trouble defeating this well-oiled military machine.
Where is the headquarters of the IDF located?
I'll give you a hint. The Kirya is a densely populated urban center. Gaza even more so considering it was once considered to be one of the most densely populated places on earth. I guess that's what happens when you pen in all the natives.
Free Palestine.
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 10 '24
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u/Effective-Notice3867 Aug 14 '24
Yeah definitely reliable sources… this is some police policing the police bullshit
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u/Donut2583 Aug 10 '24
Nazi. Leave Palestine alone fuckface.
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 10 '24
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u/Donut2583 Aug 10 '24
You support the terror. And I wish nothing but the worst for you and anyone who thinks like you.
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 10 '24
The gazans support the terror.
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u/Donut2583 Aug 10 '24
Wouldn’t have shit without the US. Say it back to me.
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 10 '24
I'm an American little buddy.
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u/Donut2583 Aug 10 '24
Irrelevant. You’re condoning the genocide. Answer it micro buddy.
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u/Donut2583 Aug 10 '24
If you were minding your own business wherever you live, and then the neighbors started invading your home & property, what exactly would you do? Lay down and let them do it?
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 10 '24
I am condoning Israel defending their state by any means necessary.
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u/Bigbadbobbyc Aug 11 '24
Isreal has apparently one of the best special forces competitive to the US and UK yet they can't use said forces for precision attacks and instead rely on bombing, because what?
Simple fact isreal wants to wipe out a whole country, the US and UK and most of Europe agree with killing a whole country because it gets rid of the fact this problem was caused by them, Muslims are fair game, killing all of them is a OK, but telling a jew they are wrong is a big problem
Look at a goddamn map of Palestine and isreal over the years and you can see exactly why Palestinians are terrorists, nobody could tell me if another country did to them what isreal has done they wouldn't become terrorists, you all think it's OK for an opposing nation to run up on your land, kill your family, rape your wives and daughters, burn your crops, destroy your religious symbols, it's OK as long as is its Jewish folk doing it, but soon as Muslims demand some humanity thats a problem, you're fucking surprised Muslims are becoming terrorists, i mean all we did was slaughter their people take their land, enslave them, rape them, why are they getting mad at us
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 11 '24
The arabs started this. They started it in 48. They started it again in 67. And again, on Oct 7th. They made their beds.
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u/Bigbadbobbyc Aug 11 '24
The West started it by cutting a country in two and giving it to people who wanted more, you can see the expansion before 48, isrealies just didn't consider Arabs as people
Just run up on land shooting at people, well they ran away so this land is now empty so we can take it since nobody lives here
There is video documenting over even the past few years of the same damn thing constantly happening, it was only a few months ago isrealies ran up and burned down an ancient farm and took it because the people ran away from getting shot, but yay to the isrealies getting more land, those Arabs looking after a bunch of trees sure had it coming
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 11 '24
So you view Pakistan in the same light correct, it was created at the same time, by the same people, for the same reasons. The biggest difference is that the creation of Pakistan resulted in 1.5 million deaths and 15 million displaced.
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u/Bigbadbobbyc Aug 11 '24
Yes and no, the world is complecated, I can be pissed at shit of the past but I can't do anything about them
Things that are happening now I can protest, isreal now has destroyed a country that used to exist during my lifetime
I'm being told by the world that it's not a genocide, while I'm watching this country get smaller, I'm watching the news with cities being bombed and I'm told by isreal that they aren't really people, just animals that look like people so it's not really a big deal, I'm seeing that isreal is breaking humanitarian laws but the US and other countries that have to uphold those laws are deciding isreal should have some leeway when every other country on earth is not allowed
It's about allies and enemies, we are supposed to expect the worst from enemies and the best from allies, yet isreal is showing the worst of the worst while being a close ally, yet we are told they have special exemption to be the worst and why is the question
The thing that pissed people off the most, you can complain about the Iraq war and every other middle Easter war and you are OK, but say anything about isreal and your an antisemite, regardless of the fact that semites are people from a specific region and currently the complaint is against two semites people but complaining against one is antisemite (if they are Jewish) while it's encouraged to hate the other because they are Muslim
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 11 '24
What country that existed in your lifetime has Israel destroyed?
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u/Mysterious_Post_8765 Aug 11 '24 edited Aug 11 '24
No country, but a genocide. Almost half of the Palestinian people live in diaspora & more than 100.000 Palestinians have been killed (mainly civilians) since 1948. Radical scum of the earth orthodox assholes stealing land in the Westbank from innocent Palestinians on a daily basis. Israel treats its Muslim inhabitants like second class people & created an apartheid state.
I'm German & I learned a lot about the horrible deeds of my Nazi ancestors at school. I am ashamed of what happened to innocent Jewish people in my country more than 80 years ago. I hope there will also be a historical reappraisal of the heinous acts against the Palestinians in Israel one day & that the Zionazis will get punished for what they've been doing to innocent people.
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u/SpinningHead Aug 11 '24
Yeah, how dare people accuse a country that debates "legitimate rape" of prisoners and has knesset members that want to shoot prisoners in the head of not caring about civilian deaths, new account.
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 11 '24
How many member of hamas have been arrested for raping Israelis? Are you claiming the gazans didn't rape Israelis?
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u/SpinningHead Aug 11 '24
Oh a rape defender too. Perfect.
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 11 '24
It alleged Israeli perpetrator has been arrested... who is defending rape other than the gazans?
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u/Fckdisaccnt Aug 10 '24
The idea "we care more about Israel/Palestine than other conflicts because the USA gives them more money" kind of implies this only happens in America.
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u/Fearless_Entry_2626 Aug 11 '24
They get aid and preferential treatment from other countries too. Russia got hit by massive sanctions, while Israel hasn't even gotten booted from Eurovision. If we went ahead and treated them like the rogue state they are, then things might change.
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u/Fckdisaccnt Aug 11 '24
You could say the exact same thing about all those other countries.
UAE is directly funding the violence in Sudan, and theyre one of the top foreign investors in western universities.
Just for one example.
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u/Raze_the_werewolf Aug 10 '24
You're right! It doesn't only happen in America because Israel is considered to be an ally to more than just one Western country. For example, in Canada, where there have been many student protests, our universities' investment portfolios often include Israeli based businesses or companies with ties to Israel. Hence, the whole "disclose, divest" movement.
The reason for the anti-genocide protests is because of our country's association with Israel as an ally. If they were not an ally and our country was not supporting them, there would be nothing to protest the government for. The protest is calling for change within our own government. Either pressure them to stop the genocide financially or through negotiation, or stop supporting Israel and "unfriend" them.
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u/Fckdisaccnt Aug 10 '24
You wanna talk about funding in univerisites?
Israel isnt in the top 3, but countries like the UAE, who directly fund the RSF in Sudan are.
A coincidence, im sure.
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u/Facts4567 Aug 10 '24
Why is he speaking the truth, quick quick what’s our response, cover it up, 🤔🤔🤔 HOW DARE HE ?
Bassam is pro Hamas, he’s antisemetic.
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u/Facts4567 Aug 10 '24
Truth hurt?
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u/Six0n8 Aug 10 '24
Zionist pig
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u/Facts4567 Aug 10 '24
Ur clearly thick and can’t read thick bastards, my post is anti rapist, anti terrorist, it’s israel speaking after being exposed.
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u/totally_random_oink Aug 10 '24
Lets not forget when US senator Bob Menendez was convicted and found guilty of taking money and acting as an agent of Israel. Oh wait....that was for the country of Egypt which this comedian is from.
hmmm....
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 11 '24
I have yet to see him make one funny joke.
He's a political vehicle that some people want to push, nothing else.
John Oliver funny, Stephen Colbert... some find him entertaining for "political reasons", not because anythng they say is objectively funny.
Sorry to burst your bubbles. We won't be talking about this guy in a few years time.
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u/Fearless_Entry_2626 Aug 11 '24
He's been talked about for many years, and he will be talked about in many years. It wasn't the genocide that made him famous. Stay salty and unfunny, zioscum.
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u/southpolefiesta Aug 11 '24
Yeah, it's because they hate Jews.
That's the reason.
This comedian is just covering up Jew hate.
Quick reminder that US funded UNWRA whose employees participated in genocide of Jew in Oct. 7
"No Jews - no News."
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u/joe_shuchat Aug 11 '24
This guy is a staunch anti-Semite. His perspective is worthless. All you fucks who support the Palestinian government (Hamas) are lost. Wake the fuck up and realize sharia law is bullshit
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u/Fearless_Entry_2626 Aug 11 '24
Do better ziotrash
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u/joe_shuchat Aug 11 '24
Say what you really mean?! Do you even know what a Zionist is? Keep supporting terrorism… See how it works out for you.
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u/Fearless_Entry_2626 Aug 11 '24
I'm opposing terrorists dipshit, terror is literally the agenda for current Gaza operations. A zionist is a judeosupremacist intent on ethnically cleansing Palestine. I know more about them than you, ziotrash
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u/joe_shuchat Aug 12 '24
Ethnically cleanse Palestine?! You realize the Jews have been wiped out of every other country in the Middle East while millions of non violent Arabs live in peace with full rights in Israel. It’s a democracy. Why does every Palestinian supporter turn to name calling when their argument falls apart? Hamas is a terrorist organization and think Israel is the bad guy ain’t it…
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u/Fearless_Entry_2626 Aug 12 '24
You realize the Jews have been wiped out of every other country in the Middle East
That's not the Palestinians problem.
while millions of non violent Arabs live in peace with full rights in Israel
A manageable minority with the full rights of a black person in the rural American south in the 70s. Israel even has it on paper that Israel is the nationstate only for Jews.
It’s a democracy.
Tell that to the millions living in the Westbank under Israeli military kaw, still somehow being denied building permits by Israel in their own land.
Why does every Palestinian supporter turn to name calling when their argument falls apart?
It only seems like name calling because the realities of what Israel is doing is that heinous.
Hamas is a terrorist organization and think Israel is the bad guy ain’t it…
"Why does every Israel supporter turn to name calling when their argument falls apart?"
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u/joe_shuchat Aug 12 '24
First off, every Arab in Israel has the exact same rights as Jews. Clearly you’ve never been there. I would happily tell everyone in the West Bank about Israel but as a Jew, if I went there I’d get killed.
Let me ask you this. Do you support October 7? If you had a close relative kidnapped by terrorists, what would you want your government to do?
You fail to recognize that the Palestinians have to sleep in the bed they made. They elected Hamas who took every dollar of aid for tunnels and weaponry. Hamas and the PLO have created the world the Palestinians live in, not Israel. They’ve been offered a nation and land time and time again. This isn’t about land.
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u/quiksilver123 Aug 10 '24
There are an estimated 9 million refugees and migrants in Egypt according to the UN mostly from Syria and, in more recent years, Sudan. That number represents about 9% of Egypt's population. I'm not aware of any country on earth that has such a high percentage of refugees/migrants.
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u/GawandeHates Aug 10 '24
Is that the new line you retards are using?
And why should they? They're not Egyptian. They're Palestinian.
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u/totally_random_oink Aug 10 '24
How about all those Iraqi Jewish refugee camps in Israel...in 1948 there were 140,000 jews who lived in Iraq. They were foced to flee and a majority of them went to Israel.
Did Israel set up Iraqi Jewish refuggee camps? No, they welcomed them as citizens. In Jordan today you can be born in the country and still not be considered Jordanian.
More Jews were expelled from Arab lands than Palestianians during the Nabka. the difference is that Israel accepted these Arab Jews into society while other arab countries used palestians as political pawns.
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 10 '24
They were egyptians until Egypt abandoned them in 67... you are a real history buff huh?
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u/GawandeHates Aug 10 '24
That's irrelevant to the conversation. It's like saying Kosovo was once Serbia. ok and what? What's worse is that Egypt had Sinai and Gaza up until 67. Didn't include the West Bank that was held by Jordan. History buff lol
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 10 '24
The war is in gaza numbbnuts. I agree, though, that gaza should go back to Egypt and the Westbank to Jordan. The Israelis can trade the settlements in exchange for the palestinians giving up any claim on Jerusalem. Win win. (Except for Egypt and Jordan, obviously)
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u/GawandeHates Aug 10 '24
Except Israel will never do that because that's against its own expansionist interests. They'd rather keep Gaza as a massive open air concentration camp than cede it to Egypt.
As for the West Bank, their plan of settlements has been working wonderfully in slowly ethnically cleansing the Palestinians.
Thanks to Trump, Israel is much closer to making Jerusalem theirs with the embassy move.
You are very naive given the set of circumstances in play.
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 10 '24
Egypt won't take them. The Israelis have asked many times. Jerusalem is Israeli.
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u/GawandeHates Aug 11 '24
No one should own Jerusalem.
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u/GreatGregGravy Aug 11 '24
Too bad you aren't king of the world.
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u/GawandeHates Aug 11 '24
And what is that supposed to mean. Are you trying to admit to something?
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u/Challenger3OP Aug 10 '24
So should any country ever accept refugees? After all why should they?
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u/GawandeHates Aug 10 '24
Ah yes you've gone with that line ok then. I'm going to give you a chance. Do you think, if the Palestinians shipped off to the Sinai they would ever be able to return? Simple yes or no will work.
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u/Challenger3OP Aug 10 '24
Countries don't accept refugees contingent on their eventual return. That's why refugees are given paths to citizenship (except Palestinian refugees in surrounding Arab countries🤔).
Europe doesn't reject Ukrainian refugees because "they might not be able to return".
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u/GawandeHates Aug 11 '24
I knew you'd be intellectually dishonest. Because the truth is very simple.
You mentioned Ukraine. It's a very easy question to answer. Ukrainians that have fled their country are able to return if they so wanted. They have the right of return.
Palestinians who leave Gaza and the West Bank, Cannot return back to Gaza or the West Bank, the right of return is denied on them
You knew but of course didn't want to mention so I can see your intentions now.
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u/shuaibhere Aug 11 '24
Why should they accept Refugees? Did they make them refugees? No. Fucking Isreal did. So why don't you ask Isreal to take up responsibility? Instead of some other country?
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 10 '24
comedian & political satirist Bassem Youssef
I have yet to see him make one funny joke.
He's a political vehicle that some people want to push, nothing else.
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u/GawandeHates Aug 10 '24
He's funnier than you'll ever be.
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 10 '24
Amazing comeback. Is that more of his material?
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u/GawandeHates Aug 10 '24
Don't need his material to prove my point. You're just an idiot and I wouldn't be surprised if I caught you saying Amy Schumer was a better comedian. Unless you'd like to declare that now?
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 10 '24
Amy Schumer was a better comedian
Pretty low standard for you to bring that up. I think I see why you might find him funny now.
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u/GawandeHates Aug 10 '24
Love how you skewed the statement and answered with a deflection.
Liberals man
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u/kazkdp Aug 11 '24
Need few braincells to understand the jokes bud, sorry..
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 11 '24
I do, which is why I don't find John Oliver funny, I don't find Stephen Colbert funny, and I don't find this guy funny either. You find him entertaining for "political reasons", not because anythng he says is objectively funny.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
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u/Educational_Bunch872 Aug 10 '24
no i think you just missed his point entirely. if you've seen this and think our tax dollars are going to anything worthwhile ur just a bootlicker, you fund the fascists. most people don't value geopolitical arguments when children are being killed, so you must be pretty heartless. on top of that you seem quite blind, because you understand what the plan is right? to settle, this is not only apartheid it's ethnic cleansing. it happened to them 80 years ago, but what gives them the right to do it to other people.
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u/The_Angel_of_Justice Aug 10 '24
Have you ever just for one second wondered... Why... Why would someone want something like "death to America"? What has America ever done to that someone to make them want such a savage thing? Wonder, find, think...
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u/Ponk2k Aug 10 '24
Dudes a comedian and even he knows that bombing civilians isn't a good way of getting rid of terrorists.
Expecting him to come up with an operations plan for Israel is kinda silly.
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u/GarethSanchez Aug 10 '24
Okay, what’s the solution than to attack Hamas while they hide behind civilians? Please. Enlighten us
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u/Ponk2k Aug 10 '24
Maybe instead of going to war with civilians maybe treat it like an anti terrorism operation.
They're supposed to have one of the most sophisticated intelligence organisations in the world and yet they have managed to kill thousands and thousands of civilians, plus aid workers and hostages they're supposed to be working to free. Throw in the absolute destruction of property and all they've done is create the next generation of fighters for hamas.
Treat it as a police matter and discourse around the topic would change dramatically.
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u/GarethSanchez Aug 10 '24
Israeli intelligence dictates where Hamas operates? lol
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u/Ponk2k Aug 10 '24
The Gaza strip is one of the most surveilled places on the planet and is tiny.
Either they're shit at what they do or there's a reason they want to obliterate the area and it's got nothing to do with hamas.
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u/GarethSanchez Aug 10 '24
Again, if they need to take out Hamas, and Hamas surrounds themselves within civilians / hides within the population what do they do
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u/Ponk2k Aug 10 '24
Are you dense? Do you have problems with comprehension?
Anti terrorist task forces like police do not use bombs on civilian targets. They document, arrest and prosecute people.
They don't drop bombs on apartment complexes.
Maybe start with that...
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u/GarethSanchez Aug 10 '24
Nothing dense about it. You’re comparing isolated terrorism incidents vs. a group of roughly 20,000 terrorists that waged war on a country
Comparing them apples to apples is what is truly dense. If you don’t have an answer, you can stop replying. It’s okay.
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u/Ponk2k Aug 10 '24
London is about 4 times the size of Gaza.
Being an apologist for wanton ethnic cleansing is embarrassing, you should maybe have a rethink and try and reclaim some humanity.
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