r/NewsAndPolitics • u/_II_I_I__I__I_I_II_ United States • Aug 10 '24

Social Commentary Egyptian comedian & political satirist Bassem Youssef explains why people talk about the Israel/Palestine issue so much.

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u/GarethSanchez Aug 10 '24

Okay, what’s the solution than to attack Hamas while they hide behind civilians? Please. Enlighten us

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u/Ponk2k Aug 10 '24

Maybe instead of going to war with civilians maybe treat it like an anti terrorism operation.

They're supposed to have one of the most sophisticated intelligence organisations in the world and yet they have managed to kill thousands and thousands of civilians, plus aid workers and hostages they're supposed to be working to free. Throw in the absolute destruction of property and all they've done is create the next generation of fighters for hamas.

Treat it as a police matter and discourse around the topic would change dramatically.

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u/GarethSanchez Aug 10 '24

Israeli intelligence dictates where Hamas operates? lol

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u/Ponk2k Aug 10 '24

The Gaza strip is one of the most surveilled places on the planet and is tiny.

Either they're shit at what they do or there's a reason they want to obliterate the area and it's got nothing to do with hamas.

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u/GarethSanchez Aug 10 '24

Again, if they need to take out Hamas, and Hamas surrounds themselves within civilians / hides within the population what do they do

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u/Ponk2k Aug 10 '24

Are you dense? Do you have problems with comprehension?

Anti terrorist task forces like police do not use bombs on civilian targets. They document, arrest and prosecute people.

They don't drop bombs on apartment complexes.

Maybe start with that...

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u/GarethSanchez Aug 10 '24

Nothing dense about it. You’re comparing isolated terrorism incidents vs. a group of roughly 20,000 terrorists that waged war on a country

Comparing them apples to apples is what is truly dense. If you don’t have an answer, you can stop replying. It’s okay.

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u/Ponk2k Aug 10 '24

London is about 4 times the size of Gaza.

Being an apologist for wanton ethnic cleansing is embarrassing, you should maybe have a rethink and try and reclaim some humanity.

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u/GarethSanchez Aug 10 '24

You can use whatever buzzwords like “ethnic cleansing” that you want. You still didn’t answer the question

Interesting Israel hasn’t ethnically cleansed their Arab / Muslim citizens that make up 20% of their population and hold positions in government and in the judicial system. Wonder why that is? Maybe because they aren’t operating off of a charter that calls to kill all Jews lol.

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u/Ponk2k Aug 10 '24

I'm not setting policy, I'm not the comedian you demanded policy from either.

I'm not ok with bombing kids and aid workers to kill terrorists because if nothing else it causes blowback. If there was political will to do it with minimal collateral damage they'd do that but they don't care about Palestinian civilians so bombs it is.

You're obviously fine with all of it and won't actually engage with the topic in good faith so I'm done now.

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u/GarethSanchez Aug 10 '24

If you’re not interested in providing an alternative I don’t think your opinion really matters. It’s easy to sit behind your keyboard saying what’s wrong with the world and not bring a feasible solution to the table. But to be fair to you, there isn’t an alternative when you perpetuate what Hamas does by demonizing Israel, effectively supporting Hamas and validating their decision to “martyr” their own children to demonize Israel and win the PR war. That’s the long and short of it.

Is it tragic that children die? Absolutely, it’s fucking horrible and no one except maybe some psycho right wing politicians in Israel + a LOT of Palestinians (67% of them somewhat to strongly support what happened on 10/7 according to an independent survey conducted by a Palestinian research group) believe that. But it’s war, people die in war.

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u/Ponk2k Aug 10 '24

I have a solution, you just continue to ignore.

With the will of the people and the body politic it is feasible, it's just not politically expedient because the intention isn't just to remove hamas.

Again, like I said, you're not debating in good faith.

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u/GarethSanchez Aug 10 '24

Your solution is for an isolated domestic terrorism case, not for war. So it’s not I who is commenting on poor faith

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '24

Like the tenth time I see a Pro-palestinian say "you're not debating in good faith" when losing an argument

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