r/JewsOfConscience 2d ago

Celebration Happy Chanukah! Show me your chanukiah šŸ•Ž

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This first candle was lit to honour the memory of Dr Adnan Al-Bursh šŸ‡µšŸ‡øā¤ļø


r/JewsOfConscience 1d ago

Discussion r/JewsOfConscience Free Discussion Thread

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Hi everyone,

This is our weekly 'Free Discussion' thread, where you can discuss anything. Tentatively this includes meta-topics as well, but as always our rules still apply.

We hope you're all having a good week!


r/JewsOfConscience 4h ago

History In Operation Gift, 56 years ago tomorrow, 5 Israeli Helicopters gathered 15 km off Beirut- their raid would destroy 12 civilian aircraft on the tarmac in Beirut in an unprovoked attack on Lebanese civil aviation.

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Operation Gift, was an Israeli Special Forces operation at the Beirut International Airport in the evening of December 28, 1968, in retaliation for the attack on the Israeli Airliner El Al Flight 253 two days earlier by the Syria-based Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).

The attack drew widespread international condemnation. The United Nations Security Council adopted Resolution 262 on 31 December 1968, which condemned Israel for the "premeditated military action in violation of its obligations under the Charter and the cease-fire resolutions", and issued a "solemn warning to Israel that if such acts were to be repeated, the Council would have to consider further steps to give effect to its decisions", and stated that Lebanon was entitled to appropriate redress. The resolution was adopted unanimously.

The raid resulted in a sharp rebuke from the United States, which stated that nothing suggested that the Lebanese authorities had anything to do with the El Al Flight 253 attack. The French recalled their ambassador.

Prior to this Lebanonā€™s Christian government had been a dissenting voice in the Arab league - seeing Israel as a potential Ally against Islamic domination. Despite absorbing tens of thousands of refugees by late 1947/early 1948 They sent no units or commander to participate in the 1948 war (only some volunteers went) likewise they sent zero ground troops in 1968 - only flying 2 recon aircraft (one of which was shot down). The events of Operation Gift seriously destabilized the Lebanese Christian government, led to the Lebanese Civil war and may have destroyed chances of an alliance.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Israeli_raid_on_Beirut_Airport


r/JewsOfConscience 8h ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only The Netanyahu Government's Dispute with the Roman Catholic Pope

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Curious for the range of thoughts and reactions.

The Netanyahu government is chastising the Roman Catholic Pope ā€“ who is, to be sure, the head of a problematic and historically anti-semitic institution ā€“ but who is also an eighty-eight year old Christian priest who has actual responsibility for actual congregants in the Gaza strip and West Bank ā€“ for saying the following words:

"Yesterday the [Latin] Patriarch [of Jerusalem] was not allowed into Gaza, as had been promised; and yesterday children were bombed. This is cruelty. This is not war. I wanted to tell you this because it touches my heart." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6I2Lr_8lFc&t=706s

See The Jerusalem Post, Dec. 25, 2024, "Vatican ambassador called by Israeli Foreign Ministry over Pope's comments on Israel"


r/JewsOfConscience 14h ago

Activism Just before 2024's Christmas, the Pope's call have been answered.

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r/JewsOfConscience 15h ago

Celebration Struggling this holiday

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I donā€™t really know other Jewish people other than my family and their friends back home and theyā€™re pretty right wing, but Iā€™m pretty sure even my ā€˜liberalā€™ sister is a Zionist. Iā€™m just too ashamed to ask her.

I live in a Christian right wing area now also so the few Jews who do live here are most likely pro-israel as well as the Christians. I do have a good group of friends around me who support me and obviously know where my heart lies, but I just feel so shameful about being Jewish honestly at the moment. I know almost everyone around me assumes I must be israeli/pro israel and that thatā€™s synonymous with Jewish.

I did light my menorah because it felt important to power through and defy my shame but itā€™s just been a tough night. I hope others are enjoying the holidays though and are surrounded by like minded people this season.


r/JewsOfConscience 1d ago

Op-Ed Can Palestinians and Israelis coexist in a single democratic state?

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An article by Alain Alameddine and Seth Morrison on theĀ Middle East Monitor, also in Hebrew on the One Democratic State Initiative's website

Seventy-six years of occupation, ethnic cleansing and settler-colonization, leading up to today's genocide in Gaza, cannot disappear overnight. In light of this, does the historical Palestinian and antizionist Jewish vision for a single democratic state where Palestinians and previous Israelis coexist make any sense? How would such a state guarantee the security of its citizensā€”Wouldn't previous oppressors and victims be at each others' throats?

Zionism claims that Jews have always been and will always be persecuted. Accordingly it presents a model for a state exclusive to Jews as the only solution, and promotes this apartheid throughout the world, by taking advantage of the long history of European antisemitism to encourage Jewish immigration to Palestine to leave their societies, cleansing non-Jews from Palestine using different means of violence, and even supporting similar identitarian projects in Algeria, Sudan, Lebanon, Syria and other countries. In other words, Zionism claims that violence is inherent to having differentĀ identitiesĀ and that separation is the only solution. The Palestinian liberation movement on the other hand has historically declared that violence in the region is the outcome of anĀ oppressive settler colonial project, and that dismantling it is the solution.

Who is right? Could a democratic state guarantee peace and security for all of its citizens? And what do historical cases of colonization and decolonization have to teach us?

Dismantling colonial relations of power, establishing the legitimacy of the democratic state

In Ghassan Kanafani's "Returning to Haifa", the Palestinian child raised by Israeli settlers ended up joining the occupation forces. One could also easily imagine a settlers' son raised by Palestinians joining the resistance. This shows that violence, both the occupiers' and the occupied's, is the result of a political structure rather than of any inherent qualities. The fact thatĀ over 90% of Jewish Israelis side with the genocideĀ in Gaza and thatĀ most Palestinians side with armed resistanceĀ is the result of colonial relations of power that were imposed by a colonial state. In other words,Ā the role of the decolonial democratic state is not to "inherit" a cohesive society but to build and develop cohesion within it.Ā In the word of Fanon, "decolonization brings a natural rhythm into existence ā€¦ Decolonization is the veritable creation of new men". This required understanding how the settler state has imposed colonial relations of power and then determining what policies will dismantle them. TheĀ democraticĀ state is aĀ democratizingĀ state.

For example, the state will grant Palestinians the rights that the Zionist state had deprived them, particularly the right of return and the right to compensation, without being unjust to Jews. It will implement a model that would be fair to all, regardless of their socioeconomic status. It will abrogate racist laws such as theĀ Basic LawĀ orĀ Citizenship Law, ensuring that all are totally equal before the Law, and will criminalize political Zionism and all kinds of settler colonial ideologies. Instead of havingĀ different school curricula for Jews and non-Jews, it will unify the curriculum; and will make sure that universal civic values replaceĀ Zionist valuesĀ in it. At the socio economic level, it will establish a comprehensive safety net with universal free education, universal health care and full equality in hiring and wages, closing today'sĀ income,Ā povertyĀ andĀ educationĀ gaps. Previous war crimes will also have to be investigated, although the mechanisms will need to be determined by the future citizens of that stateā€”both Palestinians and their Israeli partners.

The state will also have the monopoly of violence, which includes disarming segments of the population that are currently armed. And to quote Ner Kitri in his articleĀ "The transition from a Jewish state to true democracy will benefit all", it will use this monopoly to "protect its citizensā€™ lives rather than colonial privileges". Finally, the state will commit not to use its armed forces for expansionist purposes as Israel historically has. As in the cases of Kenya, South Africa and Algeria which we will discuss in more details below, deportation will not be on the table. Israelis who feel a genuine connection to the land (be it for religious, cultural or other reasons) will enjoy life as equals in a dezionized Palestine, while those who choose to leave will be able to do so peacefully.

By eliminating colonial privileges while guaranteeing rights to all, the new Palestinian state will establish and solidify its legitimacy in the eyes of its society. Crucially, instead of legitimizing its existence on the basis of representing sectarian interests, it will do so on the basis of its functional capacity to administer the affairs of its society and to guarantee its citizens' rightsā€”rights that Israel denies Palestinians and failed to deliver to Jews. This changeā€”thisĀ decolonization,Ā in the fullest sense of the wordā€”will signal a rupture with Zionism and the global colonial project. The result will be a society where tribal identities will melt away and whose citizens will not merely "coexist" but actually live together, the two previous demographic groups forming a singleĀ "mosaic of life"Ā as Ilan Pappe expressed it.

This saidā€”is this a realistic vision of what could happen? What does the history of Palestine, as well as historical cases of decolonization, have to teach us?

Violence under colonization and after it: Historical examples

Palestine has always been the home of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Bahai and observers of many different religions who lived together in peace. Before colonial Zionists, Palestine welcomed non-Palestinians such as Kurds, Armenians, Circassians and European Jews. For example,Ā Zionist education initiative "TBTN" indicatesĀ that there was an "important and vital Jewish community in Gaza during the early Muslim period", and that "the Jewish community experienced a period of prosperity under Ottoman rule". TBTN explains this peace was disturbed on two occasions: First in 1799, when Jews fled Gaza ahead of Napoleon's invasion of Palestine, "marking the temporary end of a Jewish presence in the area." These Gazans returned in the 19th century and "the city was again an important Jewish center". This ended in the 1920s when, following the mass migration of Jews to Palestine and Balfour's promise to establish "a national home for Jews in Palestine", riots started throughout Palestine and Gazan Jews fled once again. In both cases,Ā violence was the result of European colonial interference,Ā not of inherent religious or cultural differences. As expressed in the Palestinian letterĀ "To Our Other", "it is Zionism that has stood in the wayĀ of life, common life, on the basis of freedom and fairness".

Some recognize the above and understand that Jews and Palestinians can coexist in a dezionized land, but fear that in this specific caseā€”over 76 years of oppressionā€”it will prove impossible for previous oppressors and victims to live together. Obviously, feelings of supremacy on one hand and of revenge on the other are to be expected. Interestingly, historical cases of decolonization seem to reveal a pattern: When the balance of forces tips in favor of the indigenous, a transition that is more or less rough happens, a large number of settlers leave, those willing to let go of colonial privileges remain in peace. In other words, history shows that although theĀ processĀ of liberation can be violent, theĀ liberationĀ actually ends, not increases, violence between previous enemies.

KenyaĀ is one such example. The Mau Mau uprising, which began in the early 1950s, was a significant and violent resistance movement against British colonial rule. After years of unrest and increasing pressure, the British government was forced to negotiate the independence of Kenya with the native liberation movement. The new state promoted a policy of forgiveness and reassured settlers that they could stay and contribute as equals. Many settlers left, fearing reprisals. Those who stayed did have to relinquish privileges, particularly in terms of land and resource redistribution, but there were zero cases of large-scale revenge.

The Ɖvian accords that ended the French colonization ofĀ AlgeriaĀ stated that Europeans could depart, remain as foreigners, or take Algerian citizenship. In his articleĀ "The liberation of Palestine and the fate of the Israelis", Eitan Bronstein Aparicio explains that following the announcement "a violent terrorist organization named OAS (Organisation ArmĆ©e SecrĆØte or ā€œSecret Army Organizationā€) emerged and caused many casualties, mainly Algerians but also anti-colonial French, in an attempt to prevent the liberation of Algeria". This violence subsided within two months. After which, Eitan continues, "Most [settlers] chose to leave Algeria. They ran away in panic, out of fear of the day their domination would be over. But in fact, there was no real existential threat to them. They left because they were captive in their own colonial identity. In other words, they could not imagine a situation in which they would live in equality with the Algerians. And they paid a huge price for being uprooted from their home due to their own occupier mentality ā€¦ [While] 200,000 French decided to stay and live in the liberated Algeria. From their testimonies, we learn that they saw Algeria as their home, and they had no reason to leave."

The end of apartheid inĀ South AfricaĀ followed the same pattern. The negotiations between the apartheid government and the African National Congress (ANC) were accompanied by considerable violence and unrest, including clashes between rival political groups, police crackdowns, and incidents like the Boipatong massacre and the assassination of Chris Hani, a prominent ANC leader. The first democratic elections, however, were marked by a high turnout. The government enacted decolonial policies such as Black Economic Empowerment and land reforms that stripped settlers of a number of their privileges, and settlers who chose to remain as citizens did so peacefully. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission also provided an interesting model, investigating past abuses and allowing perpetrators of human rights violations who provided full disclosure of their actions and demonstrated that their crimes were politically motivated (Truth) could apply for amnesty (Reconciliation), thus judging the colonial political program that had caused the crimes rather than the human tools it had used to do so.

Other cases of decolonization seem to follow the same pattern, showing that what we need to fear is not the dismantling of the colonial Israel state or the establishment of a democratic Palestinian state, but the unfolding of the transitionary period between them. This danger can be brought to a minimum, or even averted by learning from and improving on the South Africa and Kenya models, when the Palestinian liberation movement and their Israeli partners for decolonization and peace work together on it. The colonized have made it clear, decade after decade, thatĀ a democratic state is what we want to see from the river to the sea. They must work to make this vision even clearer to both friend and foe. We invite our otherā€”today's colonizersā€”toĀ "upgrade from settlers to citizens", as our Israeli comrade Ner Kitri beautifully expressed, and to join us in our common fight for freedom for all.

"[We were led] to believe we could not live without the nation-state, lest we not only be denied its privileges but also find ourselves dispossessed in the way of the permanent minority. The nation made the immigrant a settler and the settler a perpetrator. The nation made the local a native and the native a perpetrator, too. In this new history, everyone is colonizedā€”settler and native, perpetrator and victim, majority and minority. Once we learn this history, we might prefer to be survivors instead." ā€”Ā "Neither Settler Nor Native", Mahmood Mamdani

Alain Alameddine is a decolonial praxicist with a focus on Palestine and the Sham region and a coordinator at the One Democratic State Initiative. He is happy to be reached at alain.a@odsi.co.

Seth Morrison is an American, Jewish antizionist activist supporting pro-Palestine organizations including Jewish Voice for Peace. Organizational information for identification only. He writes in his personal capacity. [sethmorrison30@gmail.com](mailto:sethmorrison30@gmail.com)


r/JewsOfConscience 1d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only What are some good content creators to watch for information about the Israel-Palestine war?

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This is a bit of a random question, but what are some good content creators that educate about or gives updates on the current Israel-Palestine war? In particular, content creators on YouTube. Videos about the history behind this war will be appreciated as well. I would like to educate myself on this war more. I have learned about some things through social media and friend's of mine, but not a lot.


r/JewsOfConscience 1d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only Thoughts on anti-zionist political parties in Israel?

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What do you all think of the liberal centrist part Yesh Atid and the leftist Hadash party, which allies itself with the Arab Ta'al party? Shouldn't the pro-palestinian groups form strategic relationships with these parties, and generally, the people who want peace from the inside of Israel? I feel like a lot of pro-palestinian groups can be quite reductionist. I understand that many are staunchly and uncompromisingly against the existence of Israel entirely. I just feel like things would be vastly improved at least if these groups worked together.

I don't know much about these political parties and would really love to hear about how they are perceived and any facts or opinions people have on them.


r/JewsOfConscience 2d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only How does preventing ceasefires, giving weapons to Israel etc. will guarantee safety for Jewish lives?

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Looking back at this genocide this past year, it's just horrible how so many preventable measures against this massacre have been sidelined. Leaving aside the geopolitical agendas, the corporate interests, etc., do these people, who are preventing the ceasefires, suppressing free speech within campuses, and giving weapons to Israel, along many other bullshit, sincerely, honestly believe they're doing all of these to guarantee the safety of the Jews? Even at the expense of the actual Jews themselves, including Holocaust survivors, who are also facing repression by the Zionists?

Would these people really have the honesty, & the transparency, to tell a Jewish person in their face, who disagrees with this genocide, that all of these actions are for their own safety?


r/JewsOfConscience 2d ago

Celebration Happy Hanukkah to my Jewish siblings ā™„ļøāœØ

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Happy Hanukkah to all who are celebrating!

Iā€™d also love to hear more about how youā€™re celebrating, and, as a bit of a foodie, Iā€™m intrigued by all the different kinds of food youā€™re eating as part of your celebrations.

:)


r/JewsOfConscience 2d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only Feel completely disconnected

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How do fellow, non-religious, anti Zionist Jews in this sub reconcile their anti Zionist views with their Jewish identity when 80/90% of contemporary Jews across the world are staunch Zionists.

I feel at a complete loss in terms of my identity. Extended family and relatives are 90% Zionists, they take literal pleasure in any and all harm to Palestinians. They are gleeful and boastful of the current genocide (and they proudly label it as such). They marginalise, shut down, bad mouth any relative who believes in Palestinian dignity, self determination and sovereignty. They call us self hating Jews and turncoats.

My values and some close family are completely, polar, opposite. We are more in harmony with the views of some prominent Jewish scholars and identities such as Norman Finkelstein, Gabor Mate, Miko Peled, Noam Chomsky, Avi Shlaim, Gideon Levy etc

I'm proud to be a Jew with faith in universal values of humanity. Although I am not an observant Jew, and am pretty much secular and atheist, I find myself increasingly aligning with some teachings of Torah Jews, specially their teachings about diaspora being essential to Judaism and spiritual Israel only being reinstated by the mashiach and not a group of atheists.

I know this is a bit of a rant, but I feel so out of place amidst contemporary Jews.

Would love to hear any experiences navigating this identity crisis.


r/JewsOfConscience 2d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only What book to give a Zionist?

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My cousin is a Zionist. He made Aliyah and has served in the IDF in Gaza and Lebanon. He was in the brigade that responded to Oct 7 and lost one of his best friends to a Hamas bullet that day. I've spoken with him and he's open to learning more. I'm looking for a book to give him which is a very GENTLE introduction to an alternative viewpoint from Zionism, something that won't scare him. Can anyone recommend something.


r/JewsOfConscience 2d ago

Celebration Early happy Hanukkah to everyone here.

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Sorry I've missed so many other of your holidays, and sorry about it being early, but I wanted to go ahead and say happy Hanukkah to all of you right now before I end up busy or distracted. I wanted to thank all of you here for your patience, your kindness and your willingness to educate others. I grieve for those of you who have had to cut off community or family, and who have had to witness so much harm being done in your name. You are all such amazingly strong people to cling fast to your beliefs when it would be so much more comfortable and easy to sit the fence and say nothing, and your virtue and empathy puts my ancestors who participated in things they shouldn't have to shame. You all inspire me to be a better person, and I thank you all for being here. I hope that maybe this time next year we will see Palestine is closer to freedom, even if that is a big hope. Thank you all.


r/JewsOfConscience 2d ago

Activism No Other Land

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In the ā€œland of the freeā€ I cannot find any streaming service that will allow me to watch a film that has won awards for best international film of the year. Make this make sense? How might an American watch this?


r/JewsOfConscience 2d ago

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

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It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

Please remember to pick an appropriate user-flair in order to participate! Thanks!


r/JewsOfConscience 3d ago

News Gaza protesters ejected from Limmud event with Israeli envoy Hotovely

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Most of the demonstrators were from Jewish group Naā€™amod


r/JewsOfConscience 3d ago

Op-Ed The Israeli newspaper ā€œHaaretzā€publishes testimonies from IDF soldiers detailing incidents of war crimes

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r/JewsOfConscience 3d ago

Celebration DIY Menorah

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Happy early Chanukah! I will be away from home for the first few days of Chanukah and was going to just make a crappy make shift menorah. I had some clay laying around and decided to make something more meaningful instead. If you haven't made a menorah before I highly suggest it it is a very beautiful experience. I can't wait to light this guy up. Bless you all.


r/JewsOfConscience 3d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only Zionist rhetoric towards antizionist Sephardic, Mizrahi, & Arab Jews is so insanely racist

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I swear more than half the times Iā€™ve mentioned being Sephardic & anti-zionist online there has been a zionist responding like ā€œUMMM DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEYD DO TO YOU WHERE YOU CAME FROM THEYD BURN YOU ALIVEā€ like??


r/JewsOfConscience 2d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only A question to our Jewish allies: What do you think of Hamas' 2023 response that it did not target civilians on October 7?

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Following October 7, Hamas stated on several occasions that it does not target civilians in general and that it did not target civilians on October 7 in particular. For example, the "Our Narrative" document in particular states:

"Operation Al-Aqsa Flood on Oct. 7 targeted the Israeli military sites, and sought to arrest the enemyā€™s soldiers to pressure on the Israeli authorities to release the thousands of Palestinians held in Israeli jails through a prisoners exchange deal. Therefore, the operation focused on destroying the Israeli armyā€™s Gaza Division, the Israeli military sites stationed near the Israeli settlements around Gaza.

Avoiding harm to civilians, especially children, women and elderly people is a religious and moral commitment by all the Al-Qassam Brigadesā€™ fighters. We reiterate that the Palestinian resistance was fully disciplined and committed to the Islamic values during the operation and that the Palestinian fighters only targeted the occupation soldiers and those who carried weapons against our people. In the meantime, the Palestinian fighters were keen to avoid harming civilians despite the fact that the resistance does not possess precise weapons. In addition, if there was any case of targeting civilians; it happened accidently and in the course of the confrontation with the occupation forces."

My question to Jewish allies is: Did you hear such statements? And either way, do you tend to believe them? I would also love to hear what you think of it in more details in the comments.

(Ops: This is more of a "discussion" but since the tag is for flaired users only, I didn't use it).

199 votes, 23h ago
25 I tend to believe it
55 I tend not to believe it
16 I didn't hear they said that, I would tend to believe it
35 I didn't hear they said that, I would tend not to believe it
68 I don't know/I'm not Jewish/Show me the results

r/JewsOfConscience 3d ago

Celebration For our Time Lengthens - A Hanukkah Supplement - collaboration by Halachic Left and All Thatā€™s Left Judaism

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r/JewsOfConscience 2d ago

Celebration Recommendations for childrenā€™s Hanukkah book?

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I ordered a $6 kids book just thinking itā€™d gloss over the major points. Iā€™m not religious at all but I enjoy the cultural aspect of lighting the candles and I wanted to teach my kid the history. But this book had a lot of info about the Greeks and the violence and Iā€™m like šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø why is that necessary? I found another at Barnes and noble today and it was great it just said the Jews chased the mean soldiers away, great. But then it went in depth into ā€œon the first night we get this kind of gift and we eat this foodā€ and stuff and we donā€™t do all that.

I just want a short illustrated story about how the oil lasted 8 days.


r/JewsOfConscience 4d ago

History Israelism now available freely via Vice News Youtube channel

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r/JewsOfConscience 3d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only American Jewish Fragility

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r/JewsOfConscience 4d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only A quick thank you to all the Jews of Conscience from a Muslim

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I just want to give a heart felt thanks to everyone on this sub for all your support for Palestine, I appreciate everything you do and wanted to give you a special thanksšŸŒ·ā™„ļø


r/JewsOfConscience 4d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only Anyone interested in a subreddit that would be centered on debunking ā€œwokeā€ hasbara like that of rootsmetals and Hen Mazzig?

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I find their type of Hasbara to be particularly dangerous because they weaponize their identities as Jews of Color and dress up their propaganda in the language of social justice, portraying Zionism as ā€œdecolonizationā€ movement to appeal to young progressive Jews (and others) to prevent them from defecting to anti-Zionism. Also Debbie does a lot of historical revisionism about Jewish diaspora history and denigrates diaspora Jews which pisses me off to no end, and Jews deserve to learn diaspora history from a leftist and anti-Zionist lens. Would anyone be interested in starting this?