r/JewsOfConscience Jewish Anti-Zionist Oct 27 '24

Discussion Cultural exchange with /r/Arabs!

Hi everyone,

Today we will be having a cultural exchange with r/Arabs - beginning at 8AM EST, but extending for about 2 days so feel free to post your questions/comments over the course of that time-frame.

The exchange will work similarly to an AMA, except users from their sub will be asking us questions in this thread for anyone to answer, and users from our sub can go to a thread there to ask questions and get answers from their users!

To participate in the exchange, see the following thread in /r/Arabs:

https://old.reddit.com/r/arabs/comments/1gd9eb3/cultural_exchange_rjewsofconscience/

Big thanks to the mods over at /r/Arabs for reaching out to us with this awesome idea! Thanks to MoC for posting the original post.

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u/comix_corp Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24

One other question I had. From what I can gather most of this sub are left wing people, either secular or religiously. How do you assess the anti Zionism / non-Zionism of the ultra orthodox like the Hasidic groups? A lot of them are opposed to Zionism but for reasons that seem less to do with supporting Palestinians and more to do with obscure theological reasons. Are any of them (besides neturei karta) sympathetic to Palestinians?

Btw I wrote this comment on Jewish anti Zionism for r/arabs a few weeks ago, if you have any corrections or feedback I would be very appreciative.

https://www.reddit.com/r/arabs/s/RoEBGmUyAF

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u/radiocreature Jewish Anti-Zionist Oct 28 '24

i definitely used to be much more bothered by ultra orthodox antizionist groups like neturei karta pre-oct 7th. i do think there are some problematic aspects as to how they are portrayed. people who arent super educated on judaism/jewish people probably have no idea about why theyre antizionist and they get a shit ton of visibility for being. well! visible, despite the many problems in ultraorthodoxy. at the same time it is an insanely powerful image to see an orthodox jew, with peyos and the black hat, being arrested, burning an israeli flag, marching arm and arm with palestinians... so maybe it doesnt quite matter what their reasons are. they show up materially in solidarity when many of us dont. and that says something.