r/JewsOfConscience Jul 10 '24

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

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u/SLCPDLeBaronDivison Jul 10 '24

how do jews feel about israel claiming to be the voice of jews while being a puppet of the us in foreign affairs?

(i am half mayan and israel worked with guatemala at the behest of the us to help with a coup and enact a genocide on my people.)

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u/Glad-Degree-4270 Post-Zionist Jul 10 '24

American Jew here

I feel that for decades we’ve used Israel as a cudgel to do dirty work overseas that we don’t want to besmirch our own reputation with. It’s had the result of isolating Israel even further than just the treatment of Palestinians has. But with decades of this conditioning, Israel now essentially is immune to calls that it is doing something wrong, as it has been Pavloved into being rewarded by mostly conservative American administrations.

Israel certainly isn’t my voice. I have my own government for that. And many Jews outside America are insular and even the reform movement members outside the US want patrilineal Jews to convert, which I’m vehemently against.

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u/SLCPDLeBaronDivison Jul 10 '24

i agree with what you, but i dont know what a patrilineal jew is

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u/Nearby-Complaint Ashkenazi Jul 11 '24

Someone whose father or paternal ancestors are Jewish but their mother is not