r/worldnewsvideo • u/PlenitudeOpulence Plenty 🩺🧬💜 • Apr 27 '24

Live Video 🌎 “The Empire Did Nothing Wrong”

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u/MumenRiderZak Apr 27 '24

You should have sympathy for the Jewish people. But you should abhor Israel aswell

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

you should abhor Israel aswell

I think that is going a bit far.

You can support Israel's right to exist but abhor the illegal settlements in the West Bank, the apartheid system, and what is going on in Gaza.

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u/MumenRiderZak Apr 27 '24

Israel as it functions now then if you need clarification

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

What does that even mean?

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u/MumenRiderZak Apr 27 '24

What is confusing to you?

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

The usage of the verb "functions" for an entire country.

Without specifying anything more, it could refer to anything and everything including the political system, the economy, the utilities...

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u/MumenRiderZak Apr 27 '24

If you want to be pedantic and ignore context and what I'm replying to sure

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

I don't believe it is being pedantic.

We are talking about a complex situation and words have meanings. Using the wrong ones is not helpful.

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u/MumenRiderZak Apr 27 '24

And you assuming my words to mean things I didn't write isn't really bringing anything helpful at all to anything. It's just arguing with no purpose.

Israel is abhorrent. If they decide to stop acting like they are they will seize to be abhorrent.

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

I never assumed your words to mean anything. I specifically asked what you intended to mean because they were unclear.

Israel is abhorrent.

Again, I disagree with your choice of words.

I believe that the current policies and actions of Netanyahu, the Likud party and their allies are abhorrent.

But that doesn't make the country itself abhorrent.

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u/MumenRiderZak Apr 27 '24

Did I specify in its current state?

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

No. You didn't specify anything. And that is the problem I am trying to highlight.

Generalised statements are not helpful.

Otherwise you could equally state that "Palestinians are abhorrent' because of the actions of Hamas.

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u/MumenRiderZak Apr 27 '24

I did in my first response.

And you could easily say Hamas is abhorrent which they are. But you decided to use Palestinians as your argument instead even trough you know I specifically didn't talk about Israelis or Jews. You argue in bad faith

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u/jutzi46 Apr 27 '24

Do you see how it's functioning ATM?

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

What do you mean by "functioning"?

The lights are on, they have running water and sanitation, a strong and resilient economy, and a democratic political system.

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u/ceroproxy Apr 27 '24

> a democratic political system

LOL

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

You can LOL all you like but the fact is that it is a parliamentary democracy.

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u/ceroproxy Apr 27 '24

Apartheid states are not democracies.

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

Israel isn't an apartheid state.

The occupied territories are operated under an apartheid system.

These differences are important.

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u/ceroproxy Apr 27 '24

Israel isn't an apartheid state.

The occupied territories are operated under an apartheid system.

Occupied by whom? Within whose borders??

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

Occupied by Israel.

Within their own borders.

That doesn't make them part of Israel or Israel itself apartheid.

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u/ceroproxy Apr 27 '24

SMH

username checks out

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u/almighty_darklord Apr 27 '24

Is south Africa also a democracy then?

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

Yes, although not the same type.

Do you not have access to Google?

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u/almighty_darklord Apr 27 '24

Ok great. End of discussion. You think apartheid south Africa is a democracy. That's all I need to know.

Or will you bend over backwards like a pretzel trying to explain how apartheid south Africa is actually a great democracy with no apartheid if you just squint and ignore everything that happens there

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u/The100thIdiot Apr 27 '24

Are you living in the past?

South Africa ended apartheid in 1994. I remember celebrating it.

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u/almighty_darklord Apr 27 '24

So you're ancient? Then you must know I mean when I say is SA a democracy. If you have more than two neurons to rub together you might just get what context mean.

Question still stands. Is APARTHEID south Africa. A democracy?

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