r/worldnewsvideo • u/PlenitudeOpulence Plenty š©ŗš§¬š • Jan 23 '23
Humor š Upset at the accuracy
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u/beatz1602 Jan 23 '23
Gotta admit, they look like a they/them.
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u/thetacticalpanda Jan 23 '23
Question - when do you use someone's gender when addressing them directly? I'm not making a larger point or trying to troll. When someone introducing themselves as "Hi, I'm Pat and I identify as they/them." Like... what part of my speech is changed because of that information?
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u/beatz1602 Jan 24 '23
Valid question. I donāt know when that would come up when addressing them directly. It would almost (if not always) come up when discussing them with someone else. Itās definitely confusing when reading a news article.
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u/Temporary-Priority13 Feb 24 '23
Suppose if you wanted to get their attention and said something like excuse me miss
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u/furatg Jun 30 '23
To avoid this I started calling everyone "Man". Man woman or child. It works cause I work in a dispensary so people don't question it.
I even called my girlfriend that once out of habit but she didn't take it very well
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u/Competitive-Truck874 Jul 13 '23
I call everybody man dude and bro for the same reason lmao. Everyone 100% knows i smoke weed on the first meet now but it just made things simpler. Now i got girl dudes and person dudes and dude dudes and dog dudes and cat dudes and were all homies, bro šš»š
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u/Competitive-Truck874 Jul 13 '23
Its different for everybody. My partner still doesnt mind when i say āyes maāamā when im being polite cause were just from texas and thats how we talk haha. But idk I think miss might be a little more polarizing than maāam cause maāam also has the cushion of being good manners but that could just be the case with my person. The trick is to not overthink it. If you put in any tiny amount of effort at all youll likely be misgendering them less than most the people in their life.
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u/HayesBailey Jun 02 '23
I just say āexcuse meā to everyone. No need to add anything extra on the end anyways unless youāre talking to a socialite or something.
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u/gmanisback Jan 24 '23
The part where you have to pretend this person you just met is so unique and interesting! /s
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u/Ottomanbrothel Jun 15 '23
Lol, worked with one such person at my last job. They told the boss they identified as they/them boss said "yeah I figured as much"
They got quite upset.
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u/redditjoe20 May 19 '23
Donāt you say, āHi Pat, they said that they are going to give them this, but they did not so Iām wondering why.ā
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u/Away-Broccoli Jun 12 '23
I say when I go to counters āwhatās up my dudeā or āhow u doin today young ladyā(especially to older women). I have been trying my best to say something different to people because of the LGBTQ cashiers I somehow always manage to get. Itās so awkward for me.š¬
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u/they_are_out_there Jun 22 '23
Mental illness. Nobody else in the world buys into this narcissistic garbage. Give it a few years and this will be past history. They need to grow up.
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u/the0neRand0m Jun 23 '23
Itās the mullets and Jam shorts for this generation. They will be rolling their eyes and laughing at themselves in ten years or so at how cringe this all is. And yes I had a mullet in the eighties. I have no excuse (but I do have some hilarious yearbook photos)
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Jul 02 '23
Thank god, finally some reasonable people on Reddit. I thought this entire site had gone insane.
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u/HaroldBaws Jan 23 '23
How dare you assume my pronouns correctly?
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u/Narcan9 Jan 24 '23
When trying to be intentionally quirky and non-conformist becomes mainstream. š”
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Jan 24 '23 edited Jan 24 '23
You people are fucking losers lol theyāre obviously making a joke.
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u/2morereps Jul 14 '23
they're not understanding, that OP is taking a shot at themselves. it's a self-deprecating humor.
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u/skunkabilly1313 Jan 23 '23
As a trans person, this is why people don't take us seriously. Someone genders you correct, and you are annoyed at them?
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Jan 23 '23
As a CIS person, I entirely took this as self deprecating and sarcastic. I really assume yāall have a better sense of humor than that I guess lol
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u/skunkabilly1313 Jan 23 '23
Jokes on you, most of us are neurodivergent and don't understand sarcasm lol now seeing that way, I get it lol
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Jan 23 '23
Lol understandable. Her little half laugh playing coy is what made me think that. Just a general overall calm friendly demeanor with something so jarringly different in content is typically sarcasm for future reference
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u/SoldierBoi69 Jun 12 '23
I mean no offense to yāall but why are so many people neurodivergent on the internet. I thought itād be rare like any lifelong disease/condition
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May 05 '23
As a bi person, I hate when people make assumptions about my sexuality based on how I look. This person had a stranger make a personal comment. That's rude in any situation imo.
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u/_Foy Jan 23 '23 edited Jan 23 '23
(Disclaimer: I have absolutely no problem with preferred pronouns or trans identies. Afterall, trans workers are still workers. Solidarity forever.)
Some people (clearly) want to use their identity as more than just an "identity", but as a cudgel; something to hide behind and something to weaponize.
There's a saying, and I don't know who to attribute it to, but it goes like this:
Anti-Capitalism without Intersectionality is just class reductionism, but Intersectionality without Anti-Capitalism is just liberal identity politics.
It seems like the subject of this video has fallen prey to the latter. Being seen and being understood are surely all good things. Don't we want people to see us, understand us, and accept us as we are?
So this begs the question: Why would they hate that someone correctly identified them?
I think the problem is generally that they are using their non-binary idenity as a sort of coping mechanism or a cop-out for dealing with the world, so they don't like it when the world pierces that veil. (Note: I am not saying that their gender identity is invalid. Just that they are using a valid identity for a purpose which it unfortunately just cannot serve.)
This is why they get upset when a customer walks in a clocks them, it means they are seen and they are, in fact, part of the world, and all its myriad problems.
EDIT: Plugging The Deprogram podcast (join us over at r/TheDeprogram) and Socialism in general. (No, not Social Democracy, I mean actual r/socialism)
EDIT2: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
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u/PlenitudeOpulence Plenty š©ŗš§¬š Jan 23 '23
Beware of r/socialism. Their mods ban socialists who post socialist content. I got banned there and was treated very aggressively.
Iāll check out r/thedeprogram but hopefully you guys arenāt in the habit of banning postersā¦ you knowā¦ the folks who provide content for discussion on subreddits. Without posters, subreddits do not function.
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u/_Foy Jan 23 '23
I'm a mod on r/TheDeprogram so I can personally promise you a degree of transparency, at the very least. :)
I've had my fair share of run-ins with the ban&mute style of moderation so I know just how frustrating it can be.
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u/PlenitudeOpulence Plenty š©ŗš§¬š Jan 23 '23
Well thatās very encouraging and Iām glad! Hopefully your sub keeps growing! I only reserve banning and muting for racists and xenophobes.
I cannot empathize with any team that bans and mutes posters who try to participate in good faith. Socialism should be a 1m+ subreddit but itās being held backā¦ it grows despite its mod team, not because of it. If a user like me can be cannedā¦ I seriously wonder how many quality users have been turned away from there.
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u/_Foy Jan 23 '23
I'm still relatively new to moderating on reddit, but I think I've gotten the hang of it, although it's definitely easier on smaller subreddits than big ones.
I think one of the challenges with moderating leftist communities is the clash of ideological tendencies and sectarianism... I imagine it's hard to grow a sub like r/socialism, there's probably no end to the mod queue lol
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u/PlenitudeOpulence Plenty š©ŗš§¬š Jan 23 '23
I'm still relatively new to moderating on reddit, but I think I've gotten the hang of it, although it's definitely easier on smaller subreddits than big ones.
Hey we all gotta start somewhere! Itās not all that difficult and Iām sure you will catch on fast!
I think one of the challenges with moderating leftist communities is the clash of ideological tendencies and sectarianism... I imagine it's hard to grow a sub like Socialism, there's probably no end to the mod queue lol
Depends on the users and the mods. I donāt see that sub as a very intense sub to mod outside of a couple of posts every month. Comments are where mods should devote most of their time but comment modding isnāt glamorous and seems to be beneath many mods. Iām willing to bet r/MarchagainstNazis is harder to mod even though itās smaller in size.
The top post on Socialism this month is 3k points or soā¦ which is an embarrassment for a sub that size. That sub has lost the plot and isnāt understanding that to educate socialists you need to keep them engaged and active in discussionā¦ there isnāt any viral discussions happening there and no one outside of their immediate circle are participating.
I hope you walk a different path than them. Most leftist subreddits are an immense disappointment to folks like me.
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u/_Foy Jan 23 '23 edited Jan 23 '23
Funny you should mention r/MarchAgainstNazis... I got perma-banned for saying "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds" on a video celebrating people in NYC chanting "Azov! Azov! Azov!" back in March last year... I guess they didn't appreciate the irony of supporting a group whose logo less than a decade ago had a literal black sun and wolfsengel on it (now it's just a wolfsengel)... but I appreciate that it's more of an American-centric, anti-Republican & pro-Democrat sub than a socialist or anti-fascist sub, per se.
I think part of the problem with leftist / socialist discourse on Reddit (in particular) is that a lot of people are very steeped in American propaganda... the Red Scare and McCarthyism aren't that far in the past.
In fact, Second Thought (one of the Deprogram co-hosts) got a visit from DHS agents asking about his "anti-American sentiments" in one of his more controversial videos. (Which is some real HOUAC shit.)
So as soon as you say the S-word, everyone has a very strong opinion (one way or another) which makes discourse super loaded and divisive... it's hard to go viral in that kind of environment, I think... but that's also by design. As Lenin said:
āFreedom of the pressā in bourgeois society means freedom for the rich systematically, unremittingly, daily, in millions of copies, to deceive, corrupt and fool the exploited and oppressed mass of the people, the poor.
So I doubt we'll see an obvious, big-tent, socialist community grow (esp. in the anglosphere) and get along with itself for a long while, if ever, due to all the anti-Communist propagandizing from mainstream sources...
Anyways... I'll keep doing my part, but it's definitely an uphill struggle.
The silver lining is that Capitalists keep giving us rhetorical ammunition in the form of non-stop crises and atrocities for the sake of profits... they just can't help themselves. That's why r/antiwork exploded in popularity during the pandemic, but it lacked direction and clarity of purpose and mostly revolved around screenshots of managers being shitty over text messages.
Anyhow, this is turning into a TEDx talk lol...
EDIT: Looks like I pissed of the spam filter and/or automod... oops!
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u/PlenitudeOpulence Plenty š©ŗš§¬š Jan 23 '23
You got banned there? Interestingā¦
Users who get banned for mentioning the Azov battalion usually get banned for conflating the whole Ukrainian army or their government with the militant group. Many of these users paint arguments legitimizing the war on Ukraine by implying the Russians are denazifying the Ukrainiansā¦ a bad-faith argument serving to intellectualize war and conquest. There are more effective and legitimate ways of critiquing American global hegemony without supporting the corruption of Russiaās oligarch class. Anyone taking a distinct side in the conflictā¦ especially the Russian side is someone to be approached with skepticism.
This is a humanist subreddit so any nation promoting and disseminating misinformation to perpetuate and legitimize conflict is likely to receive a cold reception here.
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u/AGripInVan Jan 24 '23
I am pretty sure I have seen your name enough times to consider you prolific.
I think I paid you a compliment. I realized an extra familiar name.
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u/PlenitudeOpulence Plenty š©ŗš§¬š Jan 24 '23
Thank you! Iām just a regular user like anyone else :)
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u/AGripInVan Jan 24 '23 edited Jan 24 '23
Na.
You must post or say enough interesting stuff.
And I say this without, foolishly usually, checking first to be sure.
Just curious. Did you check your year review?
Did it give you a stat % for posts or comments.
Me thinks it bs.
It gave me ' Top 1% "And that means something" '... apparently lmfao
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u/PlenitudeOpulence Plenty š©ŗš§¬š Jan 24 '23
I tend to think that the percentiles they gave are very generous. I believe I got the top 1% as well.
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u/Ottomanbrothel Jun 15 '23
I've been banned from many subs for saying this.
There are many MANY people who assume a trans identity as a way of subconsciously getting away from the problems in their life, to put up a mental barrier to them and to work on an "escape route" believing that if they change their name, their identity, their gender etc... then it's a way to get away from their problems, as if to say "all that baggage was John's, I'm not John I'm Jane now" Sort of a subconscious "fake your own death to escape crippling debt"
The TRA community hasn't been doing anyone any favors by decrying, "cancelling" and harassing anyone who questions transitioners on if it's what they REALLY want to do and instead demanding unconditional support and encouragement to transition. The reason doctors for years questioned trans people many times before agreeing to give them any treatments was because they're very aware of this phenomenon. Frankly, these days it's downright predatory. Especially with impressionable kids and teenagers being encouraged to identify as being on the LGBT+ spectrum when they're not.
The whole reason the suicide rate for post-op transitioners is through the roof is because it's only after the operation that the whole subconscious barrier they built up to deal with the world (or avoid dealing with it) comes crumbling down and they're faced with the reality that not only do all the problems they had pre-op still there, they've gotten worse through not dealing with them in the first place, they have a whole slew of new problems to add to the pile and now they've fucked up their naturally born body through hormones and surgery into something they don't identify with anymore and have conditioned those around them to identify them with a body they don't see as theirs anymore.
As you said, the reason this girl was bothered so much by someone identifying them without being told first was because it "pierced the vale" it gave them a glimpse of the diet version of what post-transition regret is, the shield they put up against the world got pierced and their subconscious had a panic attack.
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u/_Foy Jun 16 '23
There are many MANY people who assume a trans identity as a way of subconsciously getting away from the problems in their life
Are you a practicing clinical psychologist? How many patients have you worked with who follow this pattern?
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u/BannedFrom_rPolitics Jan 23 '23
Itās almost like people use our outward appearances to express ourselves so other people can have an understanding of who we are at a glance.
Pronouns are cool. Assuming pronouns is also cool.
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u/thetacticalpanda Jan 23 '23
When people at my job started putting their pronouns in their email signature, I had this exact same thought. Like, my given name matches with my gender, the way I talk matches with my gender, the way I dress matches with my gender. If there's a single-digit percentage of the population that does things differently... I'm not adapting a new way of interacting with people because of that.
Before I even knew people could 'choose' a gender I called ma'ams sirs and sirs ma'ams. Then they corrected me. Then I apologized and adjusted.
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u/ShartsCavern Jan 24 '23
Yeah I'm from the Deep South and worked hard to drop ma'am/sir from my usual, cheerful, thank you sir/ma'am. I don't ever want to unintentionally offend. I like everybody. Until you're mean. Lol
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u/Independent-Battle29 Jan 23 '23
It's nice to hear someone admit they just like being difficult.
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u/Konstant_kurage Jan 23 '23
I believe the expression goes āyou made your bed, now you have to lay in itā.
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u/kb31976 Jan 24 '23
And then they finish the comment by assuming the pronouns of the other person when they say āI hated that THEY were rightā. TRIGGERED!!!!
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u/thatrealmeatwastaken Jan 27 '23
the safest bet is to always just use the oposite terms from what you expect someone to be, because if you "misgender" a cis person they just luagh it off and think of it as a joke, or they correct you in a slightly confused way, but if you "misgender" the single digit % of the population with out of the ordinary pronouns it turns into this whole thing about how you're transphobic and blah blah blah. it's just safer.
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u/Emotional-Set-8618 Jun 12 '23
If you are mad that they are right. You have more problems than your pronouns.
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u/Dearthaireacha Jan 23 '23
Why would you want someone to be wrong about your pronouns.
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u/gentrified_potato Jan 23 '23
Because they donāt actually care about their pronouns. They want the opportunity to be offended and act holier-than-thou to someone who doesnāt assume correctly.
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Jan 23 '23
You know this video is a light-hearted joke right? Seems like someone else is the one looking for an opportunity to be offended.
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Jan 23 '23
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u/gentrified_potato Jan 23 '23
So fucking funny I forgot to laugh.
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u/OT-Knights Jan 24 '23
So fucking funny you made the exact same lame joke twice.
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Jan 24 '23
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u/sipperofguinness Jan 23 '23
Can't be angry at the world without being angry at the world. Inclusive is inclusive.
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u/paulwhitedotnyc Jan 23 '23 edited Jan 23 '23
What they really mean is āI hated that they werenāt wrong.ā Because it meant they had nothing left to talk about.
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u/Depressed-Grapefruit Jan 31 '23
Because all you are is someone who gets off on confusing people. Thatās the only reason youāre a ātheyā
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Feb 23 '23
Oh no! Now ur attempt to be different just made u look more unoriginal and people can read u like a book at trying to be quirky.
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Mar 10 '23
This is what happens when you submit to idiocy and mental illness. More idiocy and mental illness. This is the left.
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u/SJizzler May 17 '23
I still don't understand pro-nouns. I didn't as a child and I don't as an adult. I prefer to use the name you introduced yourself as and I avoid any gender words as much as I can.
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u/dhdoctor Jun 09 '23
This whole sub went fucking wild over them making a joke about how they look. Thwy arnt actully mad you fucking troglodytes. This is something id say and have a laugh over if someone said i looked like a they them to me. Pipe down and consider them human for a second not just a cringe complation.
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Jan 23 '23
wtf is a they / them ?
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u/FrnklnvillesRevenge Jan 23 '23
My pronouns are 'there / that' ..but I was in middle school when Chingy was popular, so you gotta pronounce there like THUURRR or else I get offended.
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I'm getting offended just thinking of all the potential mispronouniations!!
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u/makkiikwe Jan 24 '23
The amount of stupidity in these comments that don't get it's an obvious joke is astounding lmao y'all are more offended than what you WANT to believe the person in the video is
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u/LandscapeHonest9129 Apr 19 '23
My husband works for a huge company in Alabama and the fucking boss has her pronouns on the bottom of emails.
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u/R34Datsin May 16 '23
Guessing when people can guess what you are it makes you feel less special and takes away the only through line that lets you talk about yourself.
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u/Bigboyfresh May 17 '23
The person messed up when saying āyouā look like a, should be ātheyā look like a they/them. Iām surprised they werenāt outraged at the error.
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u/Fantastic-Artist5561 May 18 '23
Looks like a she to meā¦ If I beat the dust out of the Venus mound whilst sucking her toesā¦. Sheād become a proud woman.
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u/ConsistentMirror6007 May 25 '23
Upset when they donāt say it and upset when they say it. I canāt do this no more.
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u/pishphass May 27 '23
Was that text written on a Motorola DynaTAC 8000X? Because I thought I had glaucoma
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u/PsychologicalWhile20 Jun 04 '23
See you can't please its no matter what you call em this might be a joke but it mimics real life so accurately
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u/Leading_Draw_5711 Jun 05 '23
I recently read a wiki page about some Hollywood flake and it kept referring to them as ātheyā. At first I thought that whoever wrote it did not speak English as a first language but later realized that they were just buying in to this silliness.
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u/OjjuicemaneSimpson Jun 06 '23
These mfs wit da mullets be wild Iām good they got hurry armpits and a bigger bush
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u/Doppel_Troppel Jun 19 '23
This is posted as humor because itās humorous. The person in the video isnāt joking.
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u/Alone-Sky1539 Jun 19 '23
I donāt understand nose rings. surely when it kicks off thats a grabbing ripping target
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u/KellogsFrostedbeans Jun 21 '23
Proof even when you correctly gender them, they'll find some reason to get offended
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u/miclaw1313 Jun 21 '23
Some people think because you are behind the bar they can ask you personal questions. These people are douche nozzles.
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u/Chrisdkn619 Jun 22 '23
This is part of the problem. If you're going to get bent when someone assumes wrong, you have to be consistent when they get it right. Unless all you want is a fight. Then how dare they! šš¤£
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u/justcallmeallison Jun 23 '23
When you're try to be unique but being unique is trending, so now you just looking trendy ...
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Jun 26 '23
Canāt win at all these daysā¦ letās just start saying āhello fellow entityāā¦ then Iām sure they/them would ask if we just assumed their energyā¦ can not wait for the asteroid.
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u/PlenitudeOpulence Plenty š©ŗš§¬š Jan 23 '23
Folksā¦. She is making a joke. The post was flaired as āHumorā to make it easier to grasp! Comon folks snap out of it!