r/sandiego • u/NochillWill123 City Heights • 2d ago

San Diego police non-emergency is a joke

Today I woke up to a car blocking the drive way I was in and had to goto work. Called 3 different towing companies all said need to call police since it’s public street. Then I called the non emergency hotline and cops never showed up . I guess people can get away with parking where ever on the street .

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u/GrammerSnob 2d ago

We need to split the police into (at least) two different entities.

One entity for when a "good guy with a gun" is actually warranted. Robberies, violence, etc.

A second entity for situations where a different kind of training and resolution is necessary. Minor disputes, blocked cars, etc.

Right now we have this "one size fits all" approach where a single department is expected to have training and experience to deal with murders, suicides, mental health crises, disputes between neighbors, juvenile issues, domestic violence, addiction, homlessness, etc etc... It's too much.

"Defund the police" is an awful moniker, but I really do believe we need to relieve the burden off police so that they can focus solely on one category of crime, and let different agencies take up the slack and be more responsive to stuff like "my neighbor blocked my driveway" types of crime.

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u/TheWayofTheSchwartz 2d ago

I work with LEO and they say the exact same thing. Defund the police, but shrink their area of responsibility to just what they're really trained to do so they can do it well.

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u/GrammerSnob 2d ago

The shitty thing is that a politician running for office would take the totally reasonable thing that I wrote and turn it into "Grammersnob wants to cut police funding because he's a communist who loves crime!" or some bullshit and people eat it up.

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u/TheWayofTheSchwartz 2d ago

Right. We need a new moniker for the movement. Something like, "Let police focus on crime." We could describe it as "Focusing the police force," or something like that.

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u/GrammerSnob 2d ago

You're exactly right.

Honestly, the left sucks at branding. It's always bothered me to see my side be so inept.

"Defund the police" is a bad way to get people on board with reallocating resources to actually HELP POLICE do their job.

"Black Lives Matter" practically invites the "but but All lives Matter" response, and then we get mired in arguing semantics rather than the actual heart of the issue, which is that racism is bad. Maybe that should be the new slogan: "Racism is bad".

"LGBTIAQ2S+" is the punchline of a joke that writes itself as more letters and symbols are added. Same with the rainbow flag adding more and more stripes and colors for the various marginalized groups. The point of the rainbow flag was to include everyone across all spectrums, and I submit "Don't be a dick to people who aren't like you" as a new slogan.

Ugh, now I'm all wound up... :)

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u/youneverknow2018 1d ago

It isn’t bad branding, it’s horrible policy.

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u/GrammerSnob 1d ago

Which one, and why?

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u/youneverknow2018 1d ago

Defund the police, open borders, men in women’s sports, high taxes, government control - take your pick.

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u/GrammerSnob 1d ago

Totally. Those would all be awful policies if they actually existed.

But you're making my point for me... The left is awful at branding, making it too easy for the right-wing propaganda machine to repackage and respin and fool their low-intelligence sheep consumers.

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u/youneverknow2018 10h ago

Those are actual policies. Pretending they aren’t does not make it so. This isn’t propaganda by the right.

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u/GrammerSnob 9h ago

You said “take my pick”, so I choose “open borders”.

Show me where the Harris campaign explicitly called for “open borders”.

Or admit that that phrase is a Republican catchphrase, not an actual mainstream policy.

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u/youneverknow2018 10h ago

Missed the part about low intelligence, didn’t take long for the calling of names. At least the right knows what a woman is.

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u/GrammerSnob 9h ago

“Missed the part about low intelligence”

Missed that part, did you?

For what it’s worth, I wasn’t calling you any names. I don’t even know anything about you. But I do think propaganda works, and it makes me sad.

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u/not24 2d ago

Reform the Police

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u/TheWayofTheSchwartz 2d ago

I like this, but it still has a negative connotation that the Right will automatically reject.

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u/youneverknow2018 1d ago

Actually, no. Reform the police makes sense and would have been fine. The left insisted on defunding the police, they did defund the police in some areas, and of course the results everyone else expected occurred. The left allows the radical fringe to set policy, causing harm to the poorest communities and BTW losing the presidential election. I live in a city where we did not defund the police and we did not have the increase in crime and decrease in quality of life more liberal cities had. Elections have consequences and you get what you voted for. This is a quality of life issue that is directly impacting people, but there is zero chance the citizens of SD will learn, that would take actually voting differently.

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u/YoureGrammerIsWorsts Local Archaeologist ⛏ 1d ago

Denver did exactly what op suggested and by all accounts it is extremely successful from every perspective. And so obviously what you suggested was also happening. People are wild

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u/chaostheories36 2d ago

Real question, what are they trained for that they can do well? Im looking for a genuine answer as to what the average cop in America, today, is better at than any other profession.

I’m an MFT and I would love to be dispatched to domestic disputes instead of guy with gun.

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u/climaxingwalrus 2d ago

Firemen and ambulances seem to be able to handle all 911 calls without killing people.

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u/chaostheories36 2d ago

Which is kind of my exact point. Firemen and EMTs don’t kill people.

Are they in danger by the very nature of their jobs, just the same as police? Yes. They understand and accept that risk.

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u/climaxingwalrus 2d ago

Oh yeah I was doing the thing where I reply to a random higher up comment on the thread whoops

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u/chaostheories36 2d ago

No mistake made. We agree that police seem to get a lot of funding to do a lot of things and suck at all of those things.

My one question is what are the police supposed to be good at.

Annnnnd it’s probably arresting people of color

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u/YoureGrammerIsWorsts Local Archaeologist ⛏ 1d ago

Which is why there's never been a popular song called "Fuck the Firemen"

Well I'm sure that sentiment is actually really popular, but most for different reasons

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u/harrypotternightmare 2d ago

MFTs can apply to and are often employed as part of the PERT teams. https://www.irecruit-us.com/jobRequest.php?OrgID=I20140912&RequestID=66e46ac0838671

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u/GaeanGerhard 2d ago

A lot of cops get killed at Domestic Disputes. Maybe some lack of training, but often the abuser is armed. Having two specialist support each other instead of one size fits all would be better. I think the best use of their time is for active crime scenes like break ins or robberies.

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u/auto_generate_user 2d ago

Unfortunately over 50% of voters in this state have far too few brain cells to understand how any of this really works. They will simply repeat the endless echo chamber to feel righteous... Especially if the "evil" side supports more $$ to LE.

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u/GrammerSnob 2d ago

The "evil" side isn't really evil in most cases, just ignorant. They can't (or don't care to) think past "more police = less crime".

I think we can be smarter about how we allocate our resources. Let's let the armed response team deal with the dangerous situations, and create an unarmed response team to handle non-emergency, non-violent situations.

Which political party do you think supports that idea?

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u/youneverknow2018 1d ago

Calling one side “evil’ is a sure way to get people to agree with you on policy.

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u/Expensive-Respond802 2d ago

Not sure how “voters in the state “ has to do with San Diego police …. But ok make it about Newsom….maga People always do.

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u/auto_generate_user 2d ago

Voters in the city live in the state, and keep voting the same brain dead people into office.. However, I was more referring to the defund police polices in general, as opposed to just SD.

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u/TheWayofTheSchwartz 2d ago

I get the impression that's true of all states right now. Voter ignorance and gullibility is a deep and systemic problem.

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u/cib2018 2d ago

Too bad the blocked driveway can quickly turn into ADW. Then what does the RSVP or counselor do?

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u/GrammerSnob 2d ago

Call for backup.

Are you arguing for an armed response in all situations “just in case”?