When Micah was picked up by Pinkertons

[u/ImAgIrAfFe72]

This may seem a bit far fetched so strap in guys, it’s a weird one. (Excuse the rubbish format, I’m on mobile.)

So, we know Micah was picked up by the Pinkertons right after Guarma, yeah? And as you don’t retrieve your horse until a little bit later, you can steal one. Now to me, it seems the player is directed to a specific horse hitched outside the bar (is it Annesburg or Van Horn? I can’t remember) and that horse is a tobiano Hungarian Half-Bred.

However, during the Chapter Two mission ‘The Sheep and the Goats’, you can see a Pinkerton agent next to Cornwall, saddled on a tobiano Hungarian Half-Bred. This horse is pretty hard to find unless you’re extremely lucky and find one at a camp or nab one off a bounty hunter, so we know they’re not super common and are kind of exclusive to these characters, right?

SO, my line of thought is, an agent could’ve been inside the town’s bar and that’s where Micah was grabbed- maybe the horse you can steal is a Pinkerton’s and that’s why you don’t lose honour for taking it as you would by stealing an ‘innocent’s’; also, Micah takes a while compared to others to reach Lakay, but I realise this could be down to not knowing where the gang was holed up at the time and I’m just grasping at straws or something.

I feel like this isn’t just a random coincidence because, y’know, it’s Rockstar and I thought it would be a pretty neat thing, like a red herring, maybe?

But, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk, please tell me your thoughts!

[u/Hardie1247]

Im honestly convinced that it had nothing to do with Micah at all, at least not to begin with, and that's why the extent of Micah's involvement was left so open ended. The Pinkertons claim that Micah was picked up upon their return from Guarma, however there are tip-offs towards the heist which sends them there, as if the Pinkertons were informed of when and where they should be prepared for the bank heist to happen, prior to speaking to Micah at all.

This makes me wonder whether "Micah is a rat" was a lie from the start, spread by the Pinkertons to cause distrust amongst the gang, which they knew was already falling apart due to a potential other informant?

[u/okay-ew → u/Hardie1247]

Yes! There’s one thing I was wondering too. Not long before Micah gets locked up in Strawberry, the mission ‘A Fisher of Men’ starts, where agent Milton somehow knows a basic area as to where the gang is. My thinking is that Micah got a little desperate, opened his mouth a bit and spilled a vague location. Could be a reason it takes so long for him to be hanged?

[u/titanlmao → u/okay-ew]

Well, as far as I remember wasnt he due to hang the next day after you get drunk with lenny?

[u/okay-ew → u/titanlmao]

He was, but you can make it all the way until it’s one of the last missions before chapter 3. I’d say, maybe at least 3-4 days ingame (storywise)

[u/titanlmao → u/okay-ew]

Thats more of a "you didn't do it quickly so the mission was postponed" instead of a "the story made it so he wasnt hanged fkr a long time" like with John where he was atleast waiting for days to he hanged

[u/okay-ew → u/titanlmao]

That’s true, but it definitely seems storywise that it had been more than a day. In John’s case, Arthur and Sadie had gone a day (maybe 2) after Guarma to the bar to scout the place with the balloon (when he gets diagnosed), and then after that go get him. It seems like it had been rushed, but still a couple of days

[u/titanlmao → u/okay-ew]

Yeah but with Micah you could do the mission the day after lenny, so to me it seems again, more of a mission not being done, instead of the story making it take a while

[u/okay-ew → u/titanlmao]

That’s true, definitely could be it. But I’ll stay thinking that micah opened his mouth early just because I really don’t like him

[u/titanlmao → u/okay-ew]

Fair enough