r/realhousewivesofSLC • u/P7e7a7c7h • 1d ago
Mary Cosby
Mary is such a freak and no one talks about it???? Like fr what tf is wrong with her she’s not real- especially rewatching like she’s genuinely so obtuse. Is she like autistic or something she has absolutely no social awareness and she behaves in SUCH a way- like her ig posts look like boomers random tiktok videos that go viral because they’re senile- why doesn’t anyone talk about Mary? This bitch married her STEP GRANDFATHER to inherit her family wealth?! I feel so bad for her son..
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u/Ragverdxtine 19h ago
“She’s a freak and autistic” is a weird thing to say ngl.
What planet are you living on that people haven’t discussed all of this ad nauseum? I find her to be fascinating and very unlike any other HW we’ve seen before.
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u/Available_Forever_32 6h ago
Couldn’t find that “quote” in the post. Finding her bigotry, cruelty, & selfishness “fascinating” is actually pretty weird. It’s wild she gets a pass for all the things she’s says and does that would have gotten anyone else kicked off the show.
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u/Ragverdxtine 5h ago
“She’s a freak - is she like autistic or something?” - there you go.
Bad people can be fascinating, why do you think anyone watches any of these shows?
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u/Denizen_of_Atlantis 1d ago
I don’t appreciate you putting the word freak in your first sentence and then asking if she’s on the spectrum. It’s really not ok to shame people who are or may be neurodivergent.
Whatever Mary Cosby is, Meredith, Lisa, Jen, and many other housewives display their own version of behaviors that go against norms. She has admitted to being neglected by her mother and feeling forced to go into her marriage. I don’t think we need to look further than these adverse experiences to understand how she’s turned out to have her quirks. With wealth, people experience next to none of the consequences of their actions. So a person who has the same tendencies but isn’t wealthy may have learned to mask their behavior in public. But obviously many housewives haven’t had to. Look at Ramona, Vicki, Kathy Hilton etc
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u/chetaiswriting 21h ago
Like the framing is wild. This person listing all the reasons why Mary’s situation is complex and disparaging those traits in such an awful nasty way. Yikes.
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u/P7e7a7c7h 1d ago
I don’t think autism has anything todo with being a “freak”, anyone can be one if they’re obtuse enough... weird for you to assume I was calling her that just because I questioned if she was on the spectrum.
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u/Ambitious_Row3006 19h ago
Huh? You call her a freak in one sentence and then related that behavior to autism in the next sentence.
Something is super wrong with YOU. You’d do yourself a great service by printing out your post and saving it and then rereading it as if someone else posted it, once your aggression dies down a bit. I don’t know if you had a shitty Christmas or what, but something is festering there.
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u/freshlyfrozen4 23h ago
The way your post reads has negative connotations to being autistic. You're implying her terrible behavior is because she could be autistic. I'm not sure how you thought that was going to land any other way when you're ranting, 'What's wrong with this person, does she have autism or something?!'
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u/megsnewbrain 23h ago
How is that better? Being obtuse has nothing to do with being autistic and in fact this is a really harmful stereotype.
Please reflect on your choice of words and perhaps do some of your own research about the autism spectrum. We can all do better.
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u/P7e7a7c7h 23h ago
that’s what I’m saying
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u/ResultSavings661 22h ago
in order, you say, she “is such a freak”… “what the fuck is wrong with her”… “she’s genuinely so obtuse”… “is she like autistic or something”. weird of you to deny doing something that is so blatantly purposeful in your writing.
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u/randomrobotnoise 23h ago
She's weird and can be rude and condescending lots of the time, but she's grown on me as a cast member. It's interesting to see someone be able to make Lisa or Heather squirm. She's never afraid to speak her mind with the other ladies and I like that about her.
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u/Emergency-Ad-3350 12h ago
This is a good point. I really don’t see any housewife intimidating Mary.
Now.. next season they need to cast another preacher lady along side her..that would be amazing to see.
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u/Tomshater 19h ago
As an autisitc person, this is disgusting. Maybe you’re the freak
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u/MagnumJohnson44 13h ago
AuDHD female here - it’s incredibly disgusting and fucked up.
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u/Tomshater 12h ago
The whole discourse here. “Yah she is really weird”
When to me she’s the only one that ever made any sense, aside from Meredith at times
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u/MEAT_INCINERATOR 22h ago
For me, I’d enjoy Mary if she weren’t absurdly ignorant and racist. But people skim right past that and collectively fawn over her “realness.”
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u/studprincess 21h ago
What has she done that is racist? Trying to learn.
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u/meanteeth71 17h ago
Hello! I am Black woman, 53 who has watched from Day 1. These are things referred to:
Mary talked about avoiding going to 7-11 as it is guilty having too many Black guys/people hanging out ( and I can’t remember if she outright said it or not but she felt they were there to jerk her purse).
She referred to an Asian cast member’s “slanty eyes” and exotic beauty, thinking she was complimenting her.
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u/freshlyfrozen4 16h ago
She also said, "...When I think about Jen, I see heartless, I see a thug. Like, you know, those Mexican people that make all those drugs...."
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u/luuuu67788 16h ago
She also said she’s not attracted to Black men but her husband doesn’t count because he’s apparently white (he’s Black). She defo gives colourist energy.
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u/MEAT_INCINERATOR 10h ago
Right. When Mary first met Jennie, she complimented her “slanted eyes” and said she liked them. Okay, that’s pretty simple-minded but it’s coming from an alright place. I can forgive.
But it’s when she started mimicking her accent in a cruel manner and asking Jennie repeatedly if she “understood” what was being said - that’s when Mary crossed the line into revealing herself to be hateful.
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u/meanteeth71 8h ago
Mary is a walking talking bundle of conservative church bias. She has been raised in that Pentecostal super strict, very misogynistic and … that kind of ugly bias that just paints everyone who is not them as wrong.
That combined with her experiences with her mother and grandmother? She has been programmed for really awful things.
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u/Melodic-Supermarket7 12h ago
The real freaks are those who complain about others lacking self-awareness while in the same breath lacking their own.
Wtf do you even mean “Mary is such a freak and no one talks about it”?? Mary isn’t my favorite person but there are hundreds of posts about her antics; speculation on her childhood, her mental health; her relationships & her cult…but you decided to forgo searching, reading through & replying to any of those and make a brand new post repeating the same shit ppl have discussed for half a decade….ironically…lacking the self-awareness you’re expecting from Mary but apparently not yourself.
Your statement implies that Autism & being a “freak” are synonymous - they are not. Autism/neuro-divergence isn’t a “freak-show” performance, it’s just brains that work differently than what society has told us is “normal”. Maybe check out thesaurus.com to find better words to describe your thoughts cuz it’s coming out a jumbled offensive mess that is, ironically, lacking self-awareness….
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u/lamonkeybutt80 1d ago
Everyone was on her first season. I mean we all thought she’d have a huge scandal outside the show - the church, fraud or tax evasion type. Then BAM! Shaw was the one to go to jail. And now we are just glad she’s back on tv because she needs to be documented… she is… different.
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u/yikesus 1d ago
A lot of people has talked extensively about it. But she's a lot more likeable recenly.
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u/P7e7a7c7h 1d ago
I feel for her, especially dealing with her son but I’m talking about her exclusively with other people- the housewives and her congregation
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u/yikesus 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well yeah, but my point still stands. A lot of people have pointed out the things you mentioned. Her husband situation though is also sad to me bc she might have been groomed or forced into that marriage. And not to excuse how she treats people, just to explain it, but I totally feel like Mary's on the spectrum and doesn't fully understand social norms and people's feelings.
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u/chetaiswriting 21h ago
Which would make sense if she was malleable enough to be coaxed into inheriting her grandmothers husband
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u/Avacado-chickenGary 16h ago
Nah not everyone's on a spectrum. We need to stop finding excuses for their bad behaviors. Some people are just assholes, rude and dgaf about other people
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u/P7e7a7c7h 1d ago
I hope you know I wasn’t trying to argue or anything I just wanted to hear what others thought- none of my friends have watched it so I’m dyinggggg to discuss Mary but I can only scroll so far and I’m caught up with season 5 so I know Mere and Lisa are mostly the topic of conversation but since I have you, what’s your opinion on what happened with Jen And Heather??? I could not BELIEVE when Jen punched her in the face. I just finished Bad Mormon the other day and I was surprised heather didn’t go into much detail even though I know i feel like it was because of Jens trial
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u/yikesus 1d ago
Yeah nobody's gone into detail exactly how it went down. Iirc, Heather said on the reunion that the night before there was a lot of drinking and she woke up the next morning with the black eye and knew it was Jen. Jen is such a volatile person that could turn on a dime. I bet Heather made some kinda drunken joke or snarky remark that her snapped. I think there were bite marks too. She's crazy!
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u/noahdont 15h ago
"No one talks about it"? You sure? Did you look? It's been 5 years, it's been talked about enough.
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u/liilbiil 14h ago
“is she like autistic or something?” how kind :)
as a person w neurodivergence, im gonna say she’s there too. but how rude to autistic people.
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u/Strong_Network_523 22h ago
She reminds me of an 8 yo girl. It’s like arrested development. If you told an 8 year old what to wear, it would look like what Mary puts on. Same with that furniture and her mannerisms, and especially her bluntness.
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u/Ambitious_Row3006 19h ago
Considering she was groomed and basically sold by her grandmother postmortem, it fits.
Let’s all remember that she was very young and pretending to have her period in order not to have sex with that man. That tells you something.
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u/MagnumJohnson44 13h ago
My MIL is like this, too. Some people are like this for various reasons - in MILs case, it’s due to her mother’s abuse and mental illness that goes untreated.
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u/LessLikelyTo 1d ago
Mary is troublesome in many ways. For a lot of us, we spent the first few seasons just trying to figure her out. With her snowflake in hand this season, she hadn’t been as mean as she was in the past. Calling Whitney “Little Girl” was always awful IMO, calling Heather inbred, and now we’re just not talking about her husband? I find that to be very convenient. I’m sorry for what her son is going through, but my brother was in the same situation. Mom & Dad coddled him, handed him $$$, didn’t question him, and he was hooked on meth while living under their same roof. I hope they BOTH get the help they need. If funny, vulnerable Mary is going to show up next season, I wouldn’t be sad to see her back.
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u/Nneka7 23h ago
Little girl is awful??? What are you people even on ?!
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u/LessLikelyTo 23h ago
The way she says it is rude and condescending. If you were a grown woman with children and some big eyed bitch was calling you little girl, you’d clap back too
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u/Irresponsable_Frog 1d ago
Mary hasn’t had a pass. A few months ago the hate on Mary was borderline racist and 100% hypocritical when comparing her with the other women with their Mormon upbringing. She’s not autistic. She’s not dumb. She just prefers to focus on herself and her life. Why get involved in the drama when you haven’t had your meal or your drink isn’t full?🤣 That makes me laugh like no one’s business. I don’t think she’s clueless at all, she just doesn’t give a damn. About the yelling or who’s yelling at whoever. She has 1 person, other than herself, she will speak up about, and that’s Angie. The rest, since Meredith brined that bridge, she doesn’t give to figs about!
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u/luuuu67788 16h ago
She’s definitely had a pass. And saying ‘she just prefers to focus on herself’ is BS when she goes after the other women all the time in the nastiest ways then doesn’t turn up to events or the reunion only when she knows she’ll get backlash.
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u/Tomshater 12h ago
She could be autistic, and that would be a cool thing if she were. I’m autistic and thought I related to her from season 1
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u/Limminy_Snickshit 22h ago
Mary actually does seem like she could be on the spectrum
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u/meanteeth71 17h ago
She does. And how horrible would it be to have someone walk up and talk about it like this?
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u/Limminy_Snickshit 13h ago
That’s why I started to like Mary, because I think she really just says EXACTLY what she feels and I don’t think she does it to be mean. It’s like she naturally doesn’t have a filter lol
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u/Educational_Spirit42 1d ago
They’re all nuts. That’s why we watch. Mary showed incredible support for her son in a very public forum. Soooo many times these issues are hidden or parents shun kids to not deal with negativity. I applaud Mary’s efforts to help Robert Jr. & others who expressed how helpful this was for them.
Black women just can’t have a win. (I’m not a person of color) C’mon!
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u/P7e7a7c7h 1d ago
she’s such a wild card you can’t help but feel bad for her in one breath but just like why is she /like that/
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u/Long-Firefighter3376 1d ago
Trauma, potentially being on the spectrum, having to navigate an all white group ( micro and macro aggressive comments, routine exclusion, denying her, etc).
I get that you find her "odd", but you don't know her. She gets a really mean edits her first seasons. Everything she does they play silly music behind, Frankenstein chop reactions to her speaking in order to make her look crazier, etc.
The season we are in now, she is very level and open.
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u/Usual_Ad2083 1d ago
Mary Cosby is reality tv gold. I grew up Pentecostal and Mary’s odder behaviors are pretty similar to the people I know who grew up in, stayed in the same church, only interact with church people, etc. It’s almost like how you can be weird with your siblings, but instead you’re weird with everyone because you have a warped view of social norms. The only difference is miss Mary loves her money and her attention, which is why she’s on reality tv.
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u/Superb-Savings-4813 22h ago
Unpopular opinion. I like Mary. She’s the type who will just say what she thinks in the moment. It may come off as rude at times, but at least it’s not calculated. The majority of the group reminds me of certain women I’ve worked with who will do the worst things with a smile. That behavior was acceptable because the presentation was palatable at the time. Folks would rather drink poison that tastes great and then ultimately die instead of something that tastes bad, but alerts you to spit it out. Mary is the latter and I can appreciate that. At least I know what I’m getting up front and can make an informed decision. The others can be SNAKES.
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u/P7e7a7c7h 1d ago
ALSO I feel bad for Mary too in the same breath I feel like she was groomed into the situation with her step grandfather but her behavior is so out of pocket idk if it’s because of trauma or what but I want opinions- what’s everyone thinking?
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u/Borgqueen- 14h ago
I will give Mary some grace bc being forced into an arranged marriage to an older man was not her choice.
Has she stepped away from her church? I haven't heard mention of it on the show
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u/Lonely-Jicama-8487 14h ago
This is why Andy cohen met her and said I HAVE TO MAKE A SHOW WITH MARY!
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u/JollyAssociate6817 13h ago
She was forced to marry her step grandfather. That’s all you need to know.
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u/Daisyday12 13h ago
People do not defend whats right they defend who they like and thats why they are called a groupie or stan. This is why people are championing Mary now because she has made them laugh a few times and over look her prior racism and meanness
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u/P7e7a7c7h 1d ago
OBVIOUSLY I mean nothing negative about having autism but I’m just curious as to why she is the way she is
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u/CoachAngBlxGrl 1d ago
I’d bet money she’s on the spectrum and she’s also been sheltered and spoiled.
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u/illiacfossa 1d ago
She was no sheltered or spoiled…. She talks about her family this season. She said he mom was “all about herself” and didn’t care if the kids ate or were cared for. I bet she has a lot of trauma. It may explain her crazy behavior but it doesn’t excuse it
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u/CoachAngBlxGrl 1d ago
She said she had everything she wanted and considering she was raised in a cult, she was sheltered. She also has plenty of trauma. But she was absolutely spoiled and sheltered.
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u/Legasea81 11h ago
This is SO True!!! Mary has gotten a pass for her weirdness for years. People act like they just adore her. She has never even seemed to want to be on TV or around these ladies. She does the least and because she doesn't look like the stereotype of someone from Utah, she is given heaps of praise. Let's not even get into her stealing from her cult members at church!!! That again is just overlooked. 🙎
I'm sorry but her and Angie friendship storyline seems so forced and fake.
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u/Inmunchkinland 7h ago
Again, where has it been overlooked? People wrote millions of posts about Mary’s church being a cult the last 4-5 years. The posts are still up. I think ya’ll are getting whiplash because she’s getting a redemption arc this season and people are giving Mary some grace and you don’t like it. Let’s call a spade a spade.
I also think Mary and Angie’s friendship is genuine. Mary has had no problem telling most of the women on that cast except for Meredith and Bronwyn that she doesn’t like them, and to their faces. Angie would be no exception. I also doubt she’d be sharing her private business with her if she wasn’t a trusted person in her life. The woman just doesn’t care to mince words.
Consider the possibility that Angie was the first one on the cast to make Mary feel safe and heard and that’s her real friend. Seems that way to me, and we all need friends like that.
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u/Legasea81 6h ago
Who needs to make Mary feel safe. She has been a horrible housewife, she's used racist language, never participates in anything, and is really not all there, mentally. She has the working gs of a 12 yr old girl whose mom kept in the closet. 🤷♀️
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u/Inmunchkinland 6h ago
🤷🏽♀️Mary I guess (wanting to feel safe). Like I said earlier in this post, I’m not excusing her. Her background dictates a lot of her behavior. In addition to Robert Jr., that’s why people have given her a pass.
I’d also say her comments were more bigoted and ignorant than they were racist. She usually uses the wrong words to describe what she’s trying to say (pornography instead of predator; Mexicans when she meant Cartel). She shouldn’t have said what she said. She was wrong. But don’t forget there are housewives on the other shows who have said and done more abhorrent things than Mary and people have gone about their business. This is a popularity contest. If your favorite housewife says or does something terrible, you’ll find a way to excuse it because you like them (universal you).
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u/Own-Jellyfish-9721 1d ago
If you search you’ll find a lot of negative Mary posts…