If you look around the POE skill tree, you will find (probably) zero notables on the entire tree that are presented as upside/downside notables. I cannot recall any off the top of my head but maybe one or two exist. Upside/Downside effects are the job of keystones. Keystones provide character defining effects, that are powerful, if you can mitigate the downsides, or build around the effect. Uniques are a classic area of upside/downside effects, but even then mostly uniques are just very specific effects only available to them and the downside is that you lose out on the rare affix pool, like high MS on boots, or a 5k armour chest, or whatever else.

POE2, it feels like half of the notables on the tree are upside/downside, which is wild to me. And some of these nodes are absolutely egregious on the downsides. Increased life regen while standing still, decreased while moving? Well gee, I only spend 99.999% of the game moving, because standing still means you die.

I do not understand their obsession with upside/downside right now. Everywhere you look. Every unique, notable, this that, and anything else is upside/downside. Skill gems, support gems, notables, uniques, fucking ASCENDANCY nodes, the whole game is set up as "here's a benefit to your character, but lmao heres a downside to go with it!"

How about you just let me click some nodes on the tree and not worry about making my character worse when I do it? That's always been the job of keystones, so leave the upside/downside bullshit to the keystones.

This is a copy from poe2 reddit.

Orbs give us a lot of options for changing items in the game. Okay, that's easy. But is it ever stated in the game why orbs even exist?

I've listened to most of KittenCatNoodle's videos, and I've been constantly exploring lore from GavrynGaming, but I've never come across a single mention of orbs. I've been playing for years, come back every league, strain my wrist shift-clicking on goddamn items, and what?

After all these years, it's just stupid not to know, right? Do we know anything in this matter?

The constant nerfs to damage and defense, while increasing the difficulty of the end game over and over. The 1% at the top are never hurt nearly as badly as the average players by all these changes, and the new players get pummeled into the ground.

It seems like every manifesto is intended to make the game LESS accessible for new players.

It seems like every time people find a way to play a specific build, or have fun with another, you just gut everything.

People are only dying 1 in every 20 maps? Gotta nerf all the defenses!

Visual clarity doesn't exist in POE? Better make mechanics that you need to watch for in the maelstrom otherwise you'll die on one hit!

So, what exactly do you want us to do? What exactly is the goal? Just to keep the average players disgruntled and pumping all their effort into defense just to die in a half-second anyway?

For the past two days every time I walk by my bedroom and see him in there playing reaper summoner I get absolutely livid. I cannot believe he would betray this household like this.

Sometimes I'd step in and say something like "H-hey Kieth, um, you know this league will have the worst player retention right?"

And hed always say something fucking stupid like "That's okay champ, go back to your room me and your wife need to have an important talk"

One time I tried to redditpill him again and said "H-hey Kieth the patch notes were uhh really disappointing, um don't you wanna stop because um the games so slow now, how will you do delirium encounters?"

Now get this Reddit. He had the AUDACITY to say "I didn't read the patch notes, if I can't do delirium that's fine, maybe I'll focus on delve this league"

I immediately ran out of the room sobbing, I sat at my desk and threw my chicken tenders all over the floor in disgust.

I just don't get it reddit. I'm at my wits end at this point. I cannot fathom how someone could enjoy the current state of the game. I've already tagged the developers at least 13 times in my Reddit comment manifestos do you think I should start tagging him as well? I don't even know if he checks Reddit.

I looted this body armour and seeing its 30 quality, put it for 1div and got tonsssss of pm. That's when you know its worth something lmao. Someone offered 36 div. Other eays split it into 3 and sell for 30 div each. Any advice? What's the estimated price?

I can't find them anymore. If someone attacked anyone personally there, why not lock the post or remove the comment violating the rules? Why nuke entire posts?

Kind of insane the amount of customisation it has.

I used to play with skills like frostbolt, zombies, ice crash but nowadays you can't play these skills past yellow maps.

You're limited to handful of builds if you want to play at red maps.

Each patch viable skills/builds are keeps reducing and loot is gone from last patch.

I genuinely like to understand, what's the point of this game anymore?

How GGG want players to play this game?

I appreciate and understand the idea behind different rolls on gear potentially being good for different builds, but needing Charms and Movement speed to roll on gear doesn't seem like much of a choice. Is the trade off for not having the charm slots suffix really going to be having to spec into your charm slots on the tree because that just feels like a different kind of mandatory.