r/nextfuckinglevel • u/DearEmphasis4488 • 25d ago
Pilot averts disaster by aborting landing at the last moment during a cyclone
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u/maampata 25d ago
This is a Chennai international airport in south India. Indigo flight had to abort landing due to crosswind owing to cycloe Fengal.
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u/NeedleworkerLegal573 25d ago
OP is this your video? If so, I used to live just 2 streets away from you.
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u/sairam_sriram 25d ago
I have a home in Mugalivakkam. Where were you?
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u/JanB1 25d ago
That muust've been quite butt clenching. But why did they try to land in the first place?
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u/Hopeful-Tea-2127 25d ago
Because conditions couldâve changed in the matter of seconds, as usually observed during cyclones. From the time the ATC gives a go-ahead, the flight can still encounter difficulty landing.
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u/sausageface1 25d ago
Itâs entirely up to the pilot. Wind can change in seconds, meaning unwise to land or there could be a piece of matter on the runway needing cleared. Itâs not the tower decision
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u/incindia 25d ago
In this situation do you even attempt an auto land or is this all flying by the butt cheeks? I figure it's like cruise control, you don't use it unless things are nice out.
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u/Allaplgy 25d ago
Because planes can't fly forever?
But seriously, looks like a violent down draft/wind shear at the last second to me. They can be quite unpredictable.
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u/Bealzebubbles 25d ago
Yeah, you can see that port wing dip. The pilot obviously went from feeling it to not feeling it in an instant.
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u/Pattoe89 25d ago
This is why I wear my brown trousers when I'm a passenger on a plane.
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u/vermiciousknid81 25d ago
I was on a flight once landing at Hamilton Island in rough conditions.
As we were landing, bobbing and twisting, the plane turned fairly suddenly and I was looking out the window straight down the runway. Pilot noped out and had a go from the other direction. We come in again, bobbing and twisting, and once we were close enough and lined up the pilot dropped us onto the runway.
Pretty good landing considering.
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u/loxagos_snake 24d ago
The way you describe it actually sounds like standard procedure.
If your window was facing the runway, this means that the pilot was executing a maneuver called crabbing, where they apply rudder towards the prevailing crosswind to keep the plane stable (have it blow under both wings instead of one to keep the plane level). And if there was a crosswind, the bobbing and twisting is also to be expected as they try to correct the attitude of the plane. And last but not least, planting the plane on the runway somewhat violently is required in such conditions to quickly make contact with the ground and stabilize -- especially if there's rain/snow, this also helps break the surface tension and avoid hydroplaning.
It might not feel like it to the passengers, but that's actually a great landing.
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u/SnowZzInJuly 25d ago
i imagine that alarm going off in the cock pit and that alarm
"PULL UP"
"PULL UP"
"PULL UP"
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u/the-truth-boomer 25d ago
Nasty downburst just about got 'em. That pilot made everybody's day with that decision.
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u/guesthouseq4 25d ago
Executing a go-around in severe cyclonic conditions is no small feat and is one of the most demanding tasks a pilot can encounter. Itâs a high-stakes decision made in seconds, requiring razor-sharp skills and composure under extreme pressure.
The first hurdle is deciding to abort the landing, a choice made while battling limited visibility, strong winds, and the disorienting effects of turbulence. Once decided, the pilot must quickly stabilise the aircraft by applying full thrust, managing the sudden changes in the planeâs behaviour caused by the turbulence.
Cyclonic winds add another layer of difficulty, constantly threatening to destabilise the aircraft during the climb. Retracting the landing gear and adjusting flaps for a stable ascent has to be perfectly timed, all while maintaining situational awareness and communicating with air traffic control.
On top of the technical challenges, thereâs the psychological weight of knowing every move directly impacts the safety of everyone on board. Itâs a mental and physical gauntlet that highlights the skill and professionalism required in these extreme situations.
Congrats to the pilot, it was perfectly executed.
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u/berni2905 25d ago
Why does this read like chatGPT?
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u/TK421philly 25d ago
Because it is.
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u/rentalredditor 25d ago
Is it accurate....but AI?
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u/Lunarvolo 25d ago
There are 2 (rarely 3) pilots for flights like this. One can be flying while the other is handling a lot of the other details, and so on. Chadgpt isn't taking that into account, they are trained for this, and so on
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u/thegx7 25d ago
Not a way anyone, especially a pilot or someone into aviation would, speak about performing a go around. Plus the small segmented paragraphs really push this into chatGPT territory. You don't "perfectly time" pulling in the landing gear or slats/flaps. You wait for an appropriate airspeed and increase in altitude to retract the landing gear and slats/flaps. No need to perfectly time that. You wait for the correct moment and go from there.
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u/deadhearth 25d ago
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u/TjW0569 25d ago
No. If the flaps stay down a little longer than absolutely necessary, nothing bad happens. There's no particular time value involved.
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u/Lunarvolo 25d ago
Sort of. At certain speeds you can damage the landing gear but the margin for error is significant on recommended, needs verified, needs maintaince, needs replaced, and look out below is rather large
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u/TjW0569 25d ago
Sure, but that's not a timing problem, that's a speed problem.
There's a number of factors that need to be considered and managed in relation to each other, but while it might take time for speed to build to a point where you can milk up flaps after applying power, you're not timing the response, you're using feedback from the airspeed indicator.3
u/loxagos_snake 24d ago
The way I understand perfect timing is that there's a tight window to perform an action, otherwise you are fucked. For example, "retract the gear while your airspeed is between 120 and 125 knots or you lose your chance".
Waiting for the correct moment is more clear in the sense that you just do something after something else has happened. For example, "retract the gear only after you've reached an airspeed of 120 knots and above".
(Numbers are random)
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u/AndrewInaTree 24d ago
I can't take "you" seriously. This comment is untrustworthy. Why? I've asked ChatGPT about subjects I know about, and it just ... gets facts wrong and makes stuff up.
You are not contributing to the conversation. You are diluting it with random noise. Stop posting. Shut up.
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u/nuudootabootit 25d ago
This is why pilots deserve to be paid well.
They're not there for routine motions, they're there for when shit gets complicated.
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u/alexacto 25d ago
Looks like wind gradient. Strong lift till the last 100 feet or so, so the plane damn near smashed into the runway. You can see it almost flipping sideways once he reentered the strong wind layer. Gnarly.
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u/LostNfoundShoes 25d ago
Sully must have been flying.
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u/Outside_Sugar_2594 25d ago
Nah, this is too easy for Sully. He only lands on water.
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u/pneumatichorseman 25d ago
I mean to be fair this guy isn't shown to have landed on land. Quite the opposite in fact
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u/BDiddnt 25d ago
Out of curiosity how do we know that he averted disaster? Is it a possibility he just changed his mind?
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u/berni2905 25d ago
You don't "just change your mind" for no reason in situations like these. You go around if the conditions make continuing the landing too dangerous.
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u/ogodilovejudyalvarez 25d ago
It looks like there might have been a strong downdraft on the left wing just after they abort: I imagine the wing would have hit the ground if they hadn't
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u/hallwayburd 25d ago
Yeah I thought it must've hit a weird air pressure spot or a down draft because it looked like it dropped unexpectedly
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u/loxagos_snake 24d ago
It's not exactly a change of mind; it's a change of conditions.
During the last phases of a landing, the plane is at reduced throttle and as such has minimal lift, which means it falls down at a quicker rate. This is an extremely vulnerable time for the plane, as wind conditions have a more dramatic effect on stability. Now most of the time, the wind patterns are predictable thanks to the ATC reports and on-board weather radar, so pilots can make small corrections and keep it stable. In a perfect scenario with a calm, constant wind, you'll see planes glide gracefully and in a perfect line with the center of the runway. If there's a bit of crosswind, they just angle the plane towards its direction.
But there's a phenomenon called windshear where wind changes direction dramatically near the ground, and this can throw the plane off balance. So the pilot maybe correcting towards one side, and then the wind suddenly blows from another. This means the correction turns into an overcorrection, and the plane could crash violently (or just clip a wing in the best-case scenario).
If the plane hasn't made good contact with the ground when this happens, the protocol is to go full throttle to get back in the air and try again (go-around) instead of risking an accident. In this case, the pilot realized it would be a botched landing and averted disaster by doing exactly this to ensure the safety of the passengers -- it's often a split-second decision.
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u/InternationalPin5811 25d ago
As someone who is scared of flying. Had this happen at Brussels airport (touch and go) , was my third connective flight and ik tought i was home. Scary as hell.
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u/the_frog_said 25d ago
Would be interesting to hear from an experienced commercial pilot. Looks like the pilot realized they were coming in hard and once you initiate a go-around, it's always done at maximum. I don't think the left wheels touched, and it came close to a tail strike and a wing strike. Looks like maybe they got some downdraft and got a sink rate alarm. Certainly looked exciting.
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u/Necessary-Reading605 25d ago
And thatâs why pilots they get paid the amount of money they get.
Much more deserved than celebrities and politicians for sure
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u/Gamefart101 25d ago
Why did he need to abort though? Like his rear wheel touched down, if they were worried about wind speeds from the cyclone wouldn't taking off again be the bigger risk?
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u/hogtiedcantalope 25d ago
They can wait 30 min a pattern for things to calm down or go to another airport
The danger is impacting the ground. As the plane slows it has less control but is still moving with speed, strong winds could flip it on its side and a wing could impact the runway
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u/wally4185 25d ago
I don't think it touched. That's water being blasted off the runway from going full throttle on the engines.
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u/uiucengineer 25d ago
They had already initiated the abort by that time. Merely touching the ground doesnât mean it would have been safe to land.
The issue was a sudden change in wind causing a sudden reduction in lift. This is called performance-reducing wind shear.
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u/WiggilyReturns 25d ago
I'm from Florida... this looks very cloudy, but the trees are barely moving... also there is never any airports open during our storms.
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u/ViPeR9503 25d ago
This is in India, storms here are usually not that bed, especially in southern / western side of the country, they can be very windy for a bit and so the flights are usually delayed by a couple minutes afaik
Source: live right next to Mumbai airport and dad works there too
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u/LifeguardDonny 25d ago
"Ok, he'll probably abort here."
"He's getting kinda low."
"Hey, i thought he was aborting!?!?"
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u/mostlythemostest 25d ago
Every time I'm at DFW we land or take off during a tornado. Every time I swear to Gawd man
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u/NArcadia11 25d ago
Iâve had pilots do this a couple times when landing in Chicago during tricky conditions. Scary when you donât know whatâs happening but not uncommon.
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u/WillingLLM 25d ago
That's what you look like when someone pinches your butt when you bend to sit down.
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u/RuMarley 25d ago
I had something similar happen to me once at MAN. Landing on the airstrip and some wind conditions had me looking out the window and pretty much directly down the landing strip.... meaning we were at what felt like a 40° angle as the plane was going down. I felt like there is no freaking way this plane is going to touch down without being torn apart or at least rolling straight into the grass, but the altitude just kept decreasing.
When it felt like we were no more than 20 feet over the runway, the pilot suddenly went full throttle and aborted the landing. The funny thing is THAT was when people in the plane started panicking, and I was just like "OMG we're gonna live"
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u/space_monster 25d ago
Happened to me three times in Vietnam. We tried to land twice at HCM but the weather was just insane. We got low enough to be at building height but then the pilot just pointed it straight up and gave it full power. Then tried again at a regional airport but no dice. Then flew to another airport about half an hour away and made it down. I was worried about fuel by that point. Pretty gnarly.
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u/Wants-NotNeeds 25d ago
Decent rate too fast? I donât see a Cessna (as mentioned in the comments). (And, would a Cessna even be in proximity of the bigger planes?)
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u/WretchedMisteak 25d ago
That looked rough from the ground, imagine what the passengers felt like. I was once caught in a slight wind shear on landing and it scared the hell out of me. I'd probably faint as a passenger on this one.
Props to the pilot. Well done
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u/AccomplishedCat6621 25d ago
Had it happen twice in 20 minutes into Narita in Typhoon, Diverted to Kansai
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u/Andisaurus 24d ago
Had this happen in NZ once on the south island. Cloud cover plus crosswinds, we were about 100ft from the ground and he noped out to do a go-around. I think half the plane peed a little.
Really puts into perspective how many people are relying on, ultimately, a single human's skill and judgement to get them down safely.
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u/Janx__Spirit 24d ago
Passengers might have felt relieved being so close to land, only to suddenly be lifted up into the air again towards the almighty cyclone... I don't know if I'd be happy with that.
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u/Range-Shoddy 23d ago
This happened to us once at DFW but it was dark out. Terrifying honestly. The sound of those engines revving up ASAP is unnerving.
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u/lunivore 25d ago
I had this happen at Heathrow Airport, London, minus the cyclone; similar sized plane. We got close enough to see people's faces in the windows then the pilot revved the engine and took off again.
He came on the tannoy while we were circling and said, "Ladies and Gentlemen, as you will have noticed, we didn't land that time. The tower assured me that everything was fine, but the decision to abort a landing rests with the pilot, and I didn't fancy the chances of the little Cesna at the end of my runway."