r/gaming • u/CiabattaKatsuie Console • Oct 01 '24

The games industry is undergoing a 'generational change,' says Epic CEO Tim Sweeney: 'A lot of games are released with high budgets, and they're not selling'

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/the-games-industry-is-undergoing-a-generational-change-says-epic-ceo-tim-sweeney-a-lot-of-games-are-released-with-high-budgets-and-theyre-not-selling/

Tim Sweeney apparently thinks big budget games fail because... They aren't social enough? I personally feel that this is BS, but what do you guys think? Is there a trend to support his comments?

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u/Largofarburn Oct 02 '24

My god it’s so frustrating not being able to play games I bought just because my internet sucks. I’ve been playing black ops 3 zombies lately and it’s immensely frustrating to loose all my progress and have none of it count because my internet cuts out for a few seconds.

And micro transaction can go suck a fat one. I’m fine with dlc, even some of the more questionable ones. But as soon as they start selling an alt currency that you need to buy stuff in game and time gating normal progression I’m out. Fuck that and fuck them. There’s hundreds of games to choose from these days. I’ve been going back and playing a lot of older games lately just because I’m so sick of all the bullshit.

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u/SuperKamiTabby Oct 02 '24

I remember a few years ago complaining about a single player game dropping connection due to the shit internet I had at the time.

I was told "Why don't you move somewhere else then?"

Fucking WHAT.

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u/meowtiger Oct 02 '24

a few years back when ms was attempting the greatest fumble in the history of fumbles, they announced that the xbox one would require constant internet connectivity even for single player games, to verify licensing

some people said "hey what about people who have no or limited internet?"

and ms said "we have a console for those people it's called the xbox 360"

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u/chaos-rose17 Oct 02 '24

And then they retracted that after seeing universal hate

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u/milkywayer Oct 02 '24

And fired the guy who tried to push that non sense.

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u/No1_4Now Oct 02 '24

I'm guessing they fired the fall guy, not the entire C-suite and board of directors who are the real people behind these terrible decisions.

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u/HappyHarry-HardOn Oct 02 '24 edited Oct 02 '24

They kinda did - Phil Spencer took over soon after.

(& look how great that worked out for them - Xbox are on top of the world!)

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u/chipmunk_supervisor Oct 02 '24

Yep it was a clever trick to let Don Mattrick take the heat but the Xbox One debacle was a team effort and most of that team stayed. In hindsight even the last years of the Xbox 360's life wasn't so great either with the excessive Kinnect push and random unwanted/unimaginative sequels (Crackdown 2, Fable 3, Halo 4). Whats-his-name Peter Moore was such a driving force behind the Xbox 360's initial success and when he left the Xbox execs coasted on his momentum until it came to a stop.

Now they're addicted to the Game Pass bar chart and keep shooting themselves in the foot to make numbers go up at the expense of everything else.

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u/Appdel Oct 02 '24

If you ask me halo 4 was a little too imaginative with the source material

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u/Cerberusx32 Oct 03 '24

You also gotta remember there are BS politics and power dynamics happening in the company. And someone(s) with enough clout might want something that is stupid but guess what? Who cares, what they say goes. Look at the nonsense with Bungie and all the people they fired. A few of them mentioned they had to scrap entire content they were working on for months because someone didn't 'like' it or something dumb.

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u/Hemiak Oct 02 '24

And then fired a patsy, as all of the owners and shareholders thought it was a fine idea.

Edit: autocorrect L

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u/doglywolf Oct 02 '24

I mean it was the equivalent of the company saying fuck the poors and rural hicks they dont deserve new games. Its impossible to quantify the damage that did but needless to say that alone pushed a large % of people into the choice of which console they wanted for this generation.

They recovered niceless and are now the more consumer friendly brand so as long as they dont shoot themself in the foot again or make a cheaper version console that forces devs to double develop or downgrade the product as a whole they will likey win the next gen.

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u/Cluelesswolfkin Oct 02 '24

They never recovered from that unfortunately

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u/VenomGTSR Oct 02 '24

I’ve never seen so much good will burned up so quickly. And yet a decade on, we are nearly at that point anyway. Thing is, it wasn’t a terrible idea at its core, but having no back-up plan and no way to sell your games killed it.

I’d love to be able to insert a disk, install a game and not need the disk again as long as I had a solid internet connection. But if I don’t have internet, there should still be a physical disk check available. Microsoft’s answer probably would have been “Just go outside for a while.”