r/facepalm Jul 12 '24

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ That's the truth

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

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u/fariqcheaux Jul 12 '24

Because he didn't marry them first?

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u/gregsting Jul 12 '24

And ask them to get an abortion

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u/HarleyArchibaldLeon Jul 12 '24

Yeah that sounds about right

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u/Main-Potential6511 Jul 12 '24

Biden is a more devout Christian than Trump will ever be.

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u/Falcrist Jul 12 '24

Eh... to be a devout Christian in the US means you've abandoned morality... so I wouldn't use it as a compliment.

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u/4d_brick Jul 12 '24

hate to break it to you but most christian’s don’t support pedophilia

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24

That's good to know.

Trump has the majority Christian vote. Christian nationalists drive the Trump agenda. The MAGA racket is overwhelmingly Christian.

Time for the other side to rise up and be counted. Don't let a pedophile-supporting racket to speak for you.

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u/Garcia-Hotspure Jul 12 '24

Maga says the rape cases were hear say, and they were thrown out. What do leftist say about Ashely Biden’s diary and the videos and pictures of Biden invading children’s person space, touching them, sniffing them, etc.? I’m honestly curious

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24

Lol. Sure, hearsay... Donald Trump's very close friendship with Jeffrey Epstein was about Bible study, not the pedophilia that every other creep like Trump sought from Epstein. Nah, Trump is no different than Bill Clinton. They were both friends with Epstein to have access to Epstein's pedophile ring.

Now, about Ashley Biden. I'll let her answer for herself:

"Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love."

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u/Garcia-Hotspure Jul 12 '24

Thanks for the reply.

I agree there are a lot of powerful guilty Epstein clients on both sides.

I don’t understand Ashley’s statement really, because she never really denies that he showered with her.

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24

One of those "clients" was Donald Trump. When victims allege that they were raped by Donald Trump at 13 years old, having been lured into that world by Epstein, I believe them. Especially when the victims are already verifiably linked to Epstein and company, flight logs, and all.

If Ashley Biden alleged she was sexually abused by her father, I'd also believe her. She has not done this, and as I quoted, she addressed this very thing in a different way, appalled at the misconstrued and weaponized fleeting reference in her stolen diary.

I don't get to make a case of assault for Ashley Biden. That is her experience to deal with however way she chooses. I also don't get to define Katie Johnson's experience (Trump's child victim). She has that right, and she defined it at length before her and her family were scared into silence during the first MAGA wave.

Epstein died in prison under mysterious circumstances not too long after Trump became president.

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u/Garcia-Hotspure Jul 12 '24

I appreciate the reply. Thank you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24

Wtf you talking about you effing a hole? „Christians“ do not support pedophiles. You must have mistaken it with muslim societys where they‘re literally marrying kids, openly, legally. 🖕 keep downvoting muslim child fucker supporters 👍 Reddit doesn’t change the truth

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u/253local Jul 12 '24

The religious right supports Dump and he’s def a pedo.
Also, lots of faith leaders rape kids. *see Catholic Church settles for millions….while shuffling the same priests around.

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u/Kiwi_In_Europe Jul 12 '24

Lots of teachers also rape kids, yet you don't make sweeping statements like "teachers support pedos"

The reality is that positions of power often attract sycophants who will abuse that power

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u/253local Jul 12 '24

I see a lot more faith leaders getting arrested for diddling kids 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Kiwi_In_Europe Jul 12 '24

Do you think your anecdotal experience is representative of fact? 🤡

Google it. Every study I could find puts child abuse in schooling at higher rates than in religious institutions

https://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf

https://sites.law.duq.edu/juris/2019/03/16/catholic-priest-sex-abuse-scandals-how-the-media-shapes-the-public-perception-of-child-abuse-in-the-catholic-church/

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u/253local Jul 12 '24

That’s a great defense for rapey faith leaders. Go with that 👍🏽

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u/Kiwi_In_Europe Jul 12 '24

Lmao either provide studies or statistics that contradict mine or shut the fuck up 🤡

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u/253local Jul 12 '24

No. Please!

Keep defending raping clergy with ‘teachers do it more!’
A winning strategy.

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u/Kiwi_In_Europe Jul 12 '24

By your own logic you're also defending pedo teachers mate by downplaying it compared to pastors 💀

It's pretty fucking simple mate, positions of power attract arseholes who want to abuse said power. You see it in Hollywood, in corporate, in fucking sports. That's not rocket science.

I'm sure if you had more than two neurons to rub together I wouldn't have to explain this to you

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u/Julie_Anne_ Jul 12 '24

Aren't some lawmakers lowering age of consent and supporting more child marriages?

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u/Clear-Neighborhood46 Jul 12 '24

Kids marriage is allowed in a majority of US states….

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u/253local Jul 12 '24

And the GOP is fighting like hell to keep it that way & make no-fault divorce illegal.

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u/Brio0 Jul 12 '24

Well they support priests, and the clergy's habit of shuffling priests who molest children instead of reporting them is pretty well documented. The priest at my catholic elementary school diddled some boys, and it wasn't his first time.

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u/warren-puffit69 Jul 12 '24

So you’re selectively confusing the actions of people who say they are Christian with what the Bible actually preaches? That seems intellectually dishonest

No rational Christian supports what you are saying. You’re making up a talking point to claim moral superiority because you have encountered experiences with horrible people.

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u/IronJLittle Jul 12 '24

Oh good ole rape jokes. My favorite 😇

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24

There's no joke there. It's a vile truth.

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u/AnalysisQuiet8807 Jul 12 '24

You’re a sick man mate

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u/Key_Dust_37 Jul 12 '24

I don't know why you have to involve all Christians in this. Trump is primarily the problem of Americans, not the entire world. So to fix it for you, Americans have long supported pedophiles who see no problem with Trump raping children.

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24

Nah, I'm specifically calling out the overwhelming Christian component in MAGA. It weilds the chains in that "project".

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u/caligula421 Jul 12 '24

Christians in the entire world have a problem with their priests abusing children, this is not a US-only-problem.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Never heard a pedophilic priest in my country, is the us that is rotten to the core don’t involve the rest

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u/Free_Management2894 Jul 12 '24

It's a global problem for Catholic priests

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

He said Christian’s have a problem with their priests, not catholic

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u/caligula421 Jul 12 '24

May I ask which country?

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Swe, and actually we had one case in 1950s

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u/253local Jul 12 '24

Probably just isn’t out yet.
It’s a global Catholic priest problem.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Not a catholic country

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u/ZeppelinSF Jul 12 '24

That's one of those classic reddit moments that still makes me chuckle...

As if...

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Us has always been rotten, nothing changed they still are and will always be. Googled was one case 70 years ago, America is just fucked and needs to be restarted

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u/ZeppelinSF Jul 12 '24

I don't argue that, yet you're missing my point

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

So “as if” what? Never heard of a pedo priest? Haven’t until now when I googled. The US is rotten? Always been. Don’t involve the rest? We dont need the brainwashed people of the us to give opinions on the rest of the world

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u/ZeppelinSF Jul 12 '24

I am far from the US, yet there has been a mass uncovering of priests abusing children in a fuck ton of different ways.

Wait, could it be, that Christianity as a whole has a problem with child abuse?!

No that can't be...

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Didn’t say you were from the us and no, the Catholic Church does. Don’t involve every Christian when your country has a problem. Maybe bad people are bad people, same way the lgbt has pedos, the government and the elites. Don’t throw good people under the buss because you can only see black and white

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u/253local Jul 12 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Subject was Christian’s not catholics

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u/253local Jul 12 '24

They’re all Christian’s

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

Catholics are Christians, Christians are not catholics

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

That’s simply not true. Unlike muslim societys who openly marrying and fucking children.

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u/LumpyJones Jul 12 '24

It seems you may be unaware of a relatively new and small, but active, sect of Christianity, known as "The Two-Thousand-Year-Old Catholic Fucking Church."

In recent days, they're starting to get a reputation for being a might-bit inappropriate with the little ones.

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u/253local Jul 12 '24

The religious right is his most fervent support. Don’t like it? Get your local religious nut jobs to stop fucking voting for Satan himself 👍🏽

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u/Key_Dust_37 Jul 12 '24

Typical americans. Just because you are shit everyone is as shit as you. The world does not revolve around you.

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u/United_Wolf_4270 Jul 12 '24

Catholics have long supported pedophiles. Leave us Eastern Orthodox out of it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

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u/AlbaTross579 Jul 12 '24

Well, I can only speak about the Catholic take on priests, as I have no background with Orthodox or the more traditional Protestant sects, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were just as bad. Regardless, there are tenets of the Catholic priesthood that make me think that perhaps such a position might disproportionately attract a certain type of individual that tie into what you have said.

Let’s start with the requirement of swearing off women being a non-issue for certain types of people, and let far worse things be unspoken in the interest of not getting too deep down an unclean rabbit hole.

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u/United_Wolf_4270 Jul 12 '24

No one said that child abuse hasn't happened/isn't happening in EO. Relax. But do I think that there was a concerted, choreographed effort at the very highest levels of the Eastern Orthodox Church to move around and protect priests who were being accused of crimes against children? I don't think there's any evidence to support that. It was the Catholic Church and the Vatican that did that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

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u/United_Wolf_4270 Jul 12 '24

I would be surprised, only because the Eastern Orthodox Church isn't structured the same way as the Catholic Church. In fact, we're talking about the Eastern Orthodox Church like it's one fully cohesive unit. It isn't. It's made up of several Orthodox churches, and each one is sort of its own thing. At any rate, I appreciate you taking the time to understand where I'm coming from. It's certainly more than I can expect from most people on here.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

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u/United_Wolf_4270 Jul 12 '24

That's a fair point.

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24

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u/United_Wolf_4270 Jul 12 '24

"I have documents about everything." That's an actual quote from the website you just linked me to. Lol Is this supposed to convince me of something? You're going to need to find more than just a single website that looks like it was made on Geocities in the mid-90s by, literally, some random guy.

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24

Nah, ain't my job to do your research. I stand by my comments.

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u/United_Wolf_4270 Jul 12 '24

Makes a claim. "Nah I don't even need to research it, bro." Cool. Great talking to you. Lol

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24

I believe you are the one that made quite the claim... That the Catholic were certainly in on pedophilia but, by some heavenly miracle, the very patriarchal Eastern Orthodox are pure as driven snow.

I get it, tribal pride and tribal insecurities can do a number on people.

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u/United_Wolf_4270 Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24

I get it. You thought you had me with that link you hastily pulled off of Google, but, upon actually reading it yourself, now realize it was a piss-poor piece of evidence, and you can't come up with a shred of evidence to support your claim that pedophilia is as organized and as rampant in the Eastern Orthodox Church as it is in the Catholic Church. I'd feel like an idiot too. It's OK.

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24

Lol! Ok, you got me...

How about from the horse's mouth?

https://www.oca.org/parish-ministry/parishdevelopment/when-the-unspeakable-happens

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u/United_Wolf_4270 Jul 12 '24

I thought you weren't going to do my research for me? This article is even worse than the last one. It's an editorial, basically. Did you even read this? No, of course you didn't.

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u/OriginalName18 Jul 12 '24

He just provided a source and you dismissed it. Why continue the conversation?

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u/Slinkenhofer Jul 12 '24

The Abrahamic faiths have a long history of ritual sex with temple workers, starting with temple prostitutes (many of which were prepubescent boys). Just because you think your sect is somehow holier than the others doesn't make it exempt from this history, and it certainly doesn't mean your leaders aren't capable of taking advantage of the naive. It is the industry, after all

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u/Electr0freak Jul 12 '24

Every Christian organization ends up a breeding ground for pedos. r/NotADragQueen has plenty of examples.

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u/Omega224 Jul 12 '24

Ah yes, the only two flavors of Christian

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u/twilsonco Jul 12 '24

Right. There’s Christians that support pedophiles, and then there’s “true Christians”, the Christian variety of a true Scotsman.

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u/MegaAltarianite Jul 12 '24

Good way to know that Christianity as a whole is nonsense. The hundreds or more denominations that can't agree on anything.

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u/BackThatThangUp Jul 12 '24

And they claim it’s a rELiGiOn oF pEaCe too 😂 

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u/United_Wolf_4270 Jul 12 '24

Because that's what I was implying.

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u/capitali Jul 12 '24

The key to remember is there are no good Christians.

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u/Emilyg96gatsby Jul 12 '24

Yep, only Christians are pedophiles. All the Christians I know diddle kids. Great observation, guy.

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24

You should report them. Not all Christians are pedophiles. The ones that aren't can certainly do something about the ones that are.

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u/Emilyg96gatsby Jul 12 '24

I was being sarcastic. None of the Christians I know (myself included) support that orange pos. I think it’s really shitty to lump all Christians in with the people who claim that they are Christian while supporting trump and hurting children.

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24

Hate to tell you, but the MAGA racket is overwhelmingly Christian nationalist. What I would suggest is like the previous comment I made, those that aren't ought to do something about it.

Trump is sold as speaking for Christian America. Up to you to speak louder and clearer than that noise. It's drowning out whatever it is you value out of your faith.

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u/Emilyg96gatsby Jul 12 '24

Those people aren’t true Christians. They are facades. Your argument is equivalent to staying all Muslims are terrori*ts because of a majority of their actions (which I don’t believe btw I support everyone’s right to any religious beliefs or non religious beliefs)

I do agree that these pseudo Christians are hurting our religion and causing the masses to think negatively about us. But there are many many kind, loving, caring, selfless people still out here trying to treat others the way we are supposed to treat our brothers and sisters. Fuck MAGA.

But not all Christians are like those rotten apples, in fact the majority is not. The minority of shitheads are just louder.

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u/Emilyg96gatsby Jul 12 '24

Sorry, I’m a slow typer.

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u/HabitantDLT Jul 12 '24

I've never used the word "all". What I am saying is that using your analogy, islamoterrorism will not end without the loud voice of Muslims that are appalled by islamoterrorism.

I'm being very truthful. I hear very little out of a non-MAGA Christian America. As examples of the opposite, throughout both, black emancipation and the anti-war movement of 60s and 70s, a clear Christian supportive voice existed, even if in some contexts, it was a minority voice or even a risk to some.

I'm appalled at the Christian silence in regards to Trump, a real evil by any scriptural reference.

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u/Potential-Chard9570 Jul 12 '24

Truly a Reddit moment