Considering this guy was not traditionally left leaning…

[u/jpotion88]

From his online footprint it seems like Luigi did not meet the mold many would have expected of a left wing revolutionary. Also considering I have been seeing a lot of “the right looks for allies, the left looks for rats”, I created a new group r/ClassConscious . It’s supposed to be a thread where we can share ideas/memes with people of different political beliefs to continue to solidify the idea of class consciousness in the minds of people who might just be waking up to it. Once people realize that one kind of oppression is wrong, they might realize that other types are wrong too (or at least that’s the idea). I can’t think of a better page to ask for help than the BtB audience. Being around here a while it seems like most people take a rational approach to the problems we face. I am not a content creator or very witty, or all that good at knowing what will grab people’s attention. So I ask you all to help me, with posting and bringing attention to the staggering wealth gap that has developed in our societies. It’s not something that matters just to the left… between Luigi and the elons bullshit, I think this has a fighting chance.

Please post anything you think will appeal to those not normally thinking about r/ClassConscious (ness) in the same way.

[u/jpotion88]

Most people are a hodgepodge of views I believe. I kinda chuckle every time I hear people on the right say that the left wants to ban all guns. He saw an issue that is crippling the US, but that the people don’t really have much say in changing by democratic means. Not before we are all dead at least

[u/HelpfulNotUnhelpful → u/jpotion88]

Yep. You scoot back far enough, you can start to find common ground problems.

Example:

Left doesn’t want Christianity taught in public schools. Right doesn’t want LGBT normalized in schools. Everyone: doesn’t want schools indoctrinating their kids.

If we can agree on the big picture concern, we MAY be able to have a conversation. (Assuming good faith discussion is possible)

[u/greaper007 → u/HelpfulNotUnhelpful]

That's not really the same thing. Teaching Christianity in schools (with the exception of a cultural/historical context) is like teaching about flat earth theory.

Gay people on the other hand, actually appear to exist. I can call trans people on the telephone. Try doing that with Jesus.

[u/HelpfulNotUnhelpful → u/greaper007]

Oof. This comment of mine really took a dive. Never ever would I imply these are the same thing. Like, it’s such a given to me, as I am a recovered evangelical with a gay daughter. I personally want all religious teaching out of schools, and think kids should be exposed to all the types of families and sexual orientations.

What I was (poorly) trying to get across is that if we dig back deep enough, we can often find common motivation with people we disagree with. Once we find that common motivation, we can start moving forward.

People come to shitty and horrible conclusions all the time, even with decent reasonable motivations. We’re animals in process of evolution. We’re going to do bad dumb shit. But we also have capacity to learn and grow. We can self reflect and challenge ourselves to align our beliefs and actions with our true core tenants.

So if we can find common ground, like, “we both agree parents should be aware of what their kids are learning in school”, we can then have dialogue about how to implement that in reality.