You can sum it up with one sentiment: "I know you are but what am I"
The longer translation is:
I'm not the one obsessed with gay and trans people and keeping them out of literature you're the one obsessed with putting them in and if you would just be un-obsessed like I'm not at all obsessed, then none of us would be obsessed because there would only be straight people in the books and movies.
If these woke writers would just understand that their entire audience is entirely straight and only wants to hear about straight things then we wouldn't have to have this conversation.
If these woke writers would just understand that their entire audience is entirely straight and only wants to hear about straight things then we wouldn't have to have this conversation.
This is a commonly overlooked component of their grievance. They think conservative chuds are the "core audience" or "real fans" of an IP. It's part of their "silent majority" delusion where they believe they're the default.
I see this most egregiously in the Warhammer 40k community, where the reactionary element of the fandom are a loud minority who genuinely believe 90%+ of the community is just like them. They have a conniption fit every time a character is shown or described as anything other than a straight, white, male and their rhetoric turns to "why would Games Workshop hate their fans so???" They fundamentally cannot puzzle out the company has not crashed and burned, and diversity representation is only growing, because there are more people in the community, than them, who are happy with such things or simply do not care.
Will Warhammer 40K is very appealing the masculine modern fantasy. Real men with real guns fighting real wars forever because rah.
I've never liked the grim dark for grim dark's sake fantasy worlds. It has always wreaked of some corner case of quote real masculinity quote. Not just Warhammer 40K but the entire subgenre.
This is also why it's terrible to try to play D&D or other role-playing games when one of the characters wants to be "the loner" . The dark and brooding character that's truly the main character even if no one else knows they're really the main character.
t's actually why I never had trouble understanding the concept of toxic masculinity. I watched it Express itself in statistics on a character sheet or measure the little distances between the dolls far too many times since I started playing these games in 1977.
And Lord save us from the anime cat girl characters "that only a true man can dominate" being played by a man child named Francis who can only dominate a cat girl by controlling her character sheet,
So with those as your gatekeepers and your loudest and largest paying demographic it's easy to overlook the tens of dozens of other demographics that cumulative reform the actual market.
Turns out there is no core demographic if your game doesn't blow donkey balls.
This is also why it's terrible to try to play D&D or other role-playing games when one of the characters wants to be "the loner" . The dark and brooding character that's truly the main character even if no one else knows they're really the main character.
Hahahaha you just brought up some memories of when I was DM for my gaming group back in the day. Thanks for the snort-laugh!
The other killer trope was that we had one guy who would wander in and out of our group who would join the game and then refuse to play the main conceit of the campaign.
For instance we play a campaign where the main characters find themselves drawn to each other from across the globe and this guy, this terrible player dude, bringing the entire time, talks about how he's not going. Like he wants to have an entire separate plot line where he was the smart one who didn't go or whatever.
I never understood why it kept letting that guy come back into any games. He just thought it was the cleverest possible thing to subvert the game.
You could be playing a dragon slayer campaign and his character just doesn't believe in dragons or something.
I was lucky not to have railroaders like that. If someone tried to go "off script" I'd spank them back on track. See, my leverage was literally no one else in our social milieu could be bothered to DM - they wanted to show off their edgy, brooding, outcast characters xD
It wasn't even about railroading. He was trying to subvert the inciting incident.
Literally the DM says "each of you has woken up with a strange ability or unexpected strength and you feel this urge, this compulsion to converge on St petersburg."
"Well I'm not going to go and you can't make me."
It's like refusing to go to the tavern where everybody is supposed to meet for the first time because my character doesn't drink or something.
DM: This is going to be a mystery and heist taking place on an interstellar Cruise ship. ... GRINNING TOOL: Well I'm going to stay at home because my character hates cruise ships and vacationing.
There was no railroad in the campaign, he was literally trying to fort the framing device and demanding that we keep cutting away to his character puttering around the house or whatever.
You and me both. Like I said I had no idea why he kept getting invited back. He was a nice enough guy but he just grinned the entire time he was trying to submarine the game. I wasn't the person in charge of the group so it wasn't like I had the ability to veto his presence.
Never near half, thankfully, haha but I did meet a few with cookie cutter character types; trench coats, shades at night, names like "Katana", mysterious dark past and no friends lol. It was the very early 00s, as well, so everything had to be edgy.
The Matrix was still wildly popular then. I wanted a trenchcoat so bad but my grandparents were like, "them columbine shooters wore those things. You're not getting one."
I'm glad I didn't because stoner, skater, punk hair, and an unbuttoned button-up and wife beater tank top combo made me popular... Lol
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u/DarthArtero 6d ago
I read that three times and I still have no idea what they're trying to say.
Are they saying that writers who use LGBTQ+ characters lack empathy? That's the part I can't wrap my brain around.
The same writers also actively refuse to understand racist transphobic incel chuds??