Ukrainian troops abduct civilians, their hands bound, blindfolded, they are taken away in trucks, beaten, and then disappear. Numerous reports of these types of abductions in the Kursk region.

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That's some janky looking ladder

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Elsewhere it was posted that these were Russian servicemen who had changed into civies to avoid being taken as POWs

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 18 '24

If this is true, it doesn't excuse these crimes.

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u/StringGlittering7692 Aug 18 '24

I'm afraid it is considered perfidy.

They will be well looked after as POWs and exchanged for Ukranians soldiers.

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u/ismailhaniyeahboi Aug 18 '24

I seen a Russian POW shot in the head yesterday by his Ukranian captor.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 18 '24

They will be well looked after as POWs

You just watching them being beaten.

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u/DeusExMachinaOverdue Aug 18 '24

That's not a beating. If they are Russian soldiers hiding and pretending to be civilians, it doesn't excuse their previous crimes. You're taking a very one sided view of the situation. For all you know they could've been involved in the massacre at Bucha. Don't forget that Russia has kidnapped a lot of Ukranian children, where's your outrage for that?

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 19 '24

That's not a beating. If they are Russian soldiers hiding and pretending to be civilians, it doesn't excuse their previous crimes.

"It's not a beating but they probably deserved that beating."

For all you know they could've been involved in the massacre at Bucha.

That never happened and it wouldn't excuse beatings anyway.

Don't forget that Russia has kidnapped a lot of Ukranian children, where's your outrage for that?

That also never happened and it wouldn't excuse beatings anyway.

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u/ismailhaniyeahboi Aug 18 '24

For all you know they could've been involved in the massacre at Bucha.

Why would Russian soldiers be involved in a Ukrainian operation?

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u/StringGlittering7692 Aug 18 '24

Have you seen the state of returned Ukrainian POWs? Horrific

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 18 '24

You should make a thread about that. Meanwhile, are you finished?

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u/ismailhaniyeahboi Aug 18 '24

No Nazi slogans please.

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u/defixiones Aug 18 '24

Any sources for this or is it just some ChatGPT bollocks?

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 19 '24

Are you saying that you think this video is artificially generated?

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u/defixiones Aug 19 '24

No, the thread title reads that way. The video could be genuine, who knows, it's not presented in any context.

It's no secret that there are Ukrainian Nazi-supporting Banderas nationalists, but this adds nothing.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 19 '24

I found out from it that Ukrainian troops were abducting civilians, their hands bound, blindfolded, they are taken away in trucks, beaten, and then disappeared. And that there were numerous reports of these types of abductions in the Kursk region.

That was a lot more than nothing.

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u/defixiones Aug 19 '24

Really? Can you provide a translation, source, date or location? That could be Bucha last year for all I can tell. I'm not a Russian speaker.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 19 '24

But if you had those things you could still choose to continue to doubt it as you're doing now. What's the point?

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u/defixiones Aug 19 '24

This is the difference between journalism and propaganda.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 19 '24

Yes, one that you decide to believe because it suits you, you call journalism.

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u/defixiones Aug 19 '24

No, the difference is supplying translation, source, date and location. Without those, all stories will be a matter of belief, feelings and interpretation.

Propagandists love nothing more than this, a situation where everyone is disbelieved equally and everything is a matter of interpretation.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 19 '24

Without those, all stories will be a matter of belief, feelings and interpretation.

Nope, even with those it's the same thing. It doesn't matter how much evidence you provide, people believe what they want to believe. It's the Emperor's New Clothes. There are still people today who are pretending to believe that the Russian invasion was "unprovoked". Today in 2024. Nothing will convince them.

There's some even in denial that Ukraine is a fascist dictatorship with an ultrantionalism rooted in Nazism. These people will tell you that they believe the genocidal USA. Really.

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u/Nittefils Aug 18 '24

These captured was russian nazies obviously. They are beeing sent to denazification center.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 18 '24

People will choose to believe this kind of thing.

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u/Nittefils Aug 18 '24

Russia rape and kill; vatniks: this is fine. Ukrainians fight back; vatniks; waaaaah! Dont you dare ressist!!! Follow law!!! Naaaaaazies!! Waaaah

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 18 '24

Do you support the Nazis? Honest question.

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u/Nittefils Aug 18 '24

Dishonest question, and no. Russia is one of the countries with most nazi and right wing extreemist populations on earth, do you support them?

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 18 '24

That's not true. You're embarrassing yourself.

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u/Nittefils Aug 18 '24

That is true, so i guess you support nazis.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 18 '24

Source then please. Or just stay quiet.

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u/Nittefils Aug 18 '24

So you dont Even deny it. Oh my. Ah Well. Sad…

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 18 '24

I have been and continue to be one of the major anti-Nazi posters around here. So no source then?

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u/ForestBear11 Aug 22 '24

"Nazis of the future will call themselves Anti-Nazis" - Sir Winston Churchill. In all honesty, this describes your comments about mythical nAzEes!!1!1!!

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 22 '24

Wait, are you saying that Ukraine doesn't have an extreme Nazi problem?

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u/ForestBear11 Aug 22 '24

Sure, but so does Russia as well. Take into account PMC Wagner whose members exhibit Neo-Nazi symbolics under Russian tricolor. Btw it's a Vlasovite flag of Russian Nazi collaborationists who had served in the ROA - Russian Liberation Army.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 22 '24

So you support Nazis because you think there's Nazis on both sides? Where did you hear this about Wagner?

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u/ForestBear11 Aug 22 '24

I'm Russian myself and my great-grandfathers fought the Nazis during the Great Patriotic War 1941-45. But what Russia has done in Ukraine since 2022 is an outragious act that I cannot approve. Putin gives zero fuck about the Russian-speaking minority in South-East Ukraine nor about the occasional cases of Nazi parades in West Ukraine. He simply needs more lands for imperial ambitions, preferably destroyed into ruins.

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u/CautiousListen5914 Aug 22 '24

What Russia has done is respond (eventually) to US/NATO aggression and constant provocations. Surely you approve of denazifying Ukraine? Or did you believe them when they told you there were no Nazis in Ukraine?

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