r/OnePieceTC • u/pesaher • Sep 23 '17

MEGATHREAD Global Controversy Megathread

As you all know, shit has been going down in the Global server in the last 48 hours. So, to avoid cluttering the front page, all the already existing threads will be linked here and any future threads regarding this topic will be deleted. Keep the discussion in this thread, and please redirect users who make new threads here.

Without further ado:

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u/Shuazilla LL, SWA, Zoro, Croc, Doffy, WB+, Lucci, SWS, Ray, Cora, Cavendis Sep 23 '17

Niceeeeee. Heres what I said in one of those posts. Relevant and could hopefully help to organize our thoughts and plans.

First step: hit front page on reddit

Someone should probably post healthtech's data as well as a post calling people to arms about how Bandai has been screwing us over. Post it to Dokkan, BBS, Naruto, One Piece, literally any and all subreddits that are in some form related to the game and its parent company.

However it needs be written properly. Without sounding biased, and without sounding like a salty player complaining about losing and all the other excuses people throw.

Make sure the data is relevant and appears directly after the points being stated in the argument. For example:

If you bring up RNG, people will immediately say "well that's RNG for ya".

If you bring up crap rates, people will say "well if you knew the rates were low, why bother?"

But if you link the relevant data and info right after mentioning the point, it will seem less biased, and more of a valid argument.

Think of it like a research paper. Gotta do it right and legit and can't sound biased. State facts and show your proof and citations to back it up. Otherwise it will just come off like a biased complaint and will be brushed off.

Second Step: Start a petition. Theres a website that lets you make one. Make your point short and concise and include the data and you'll get more signatures with less hassle.

Third Step: Bring in the big names and streamers like Zeenigami, and the others that I can't remember the names of exactly. But don't just have the Global streamers, that would sound biased. If anything include the Japanese streamers as well. They'll be more likely to be heard because they're playing on the version that appeals to more people that will have a bigger impact. If Global is the only one being screwed, and only Global is complaining, its Bandai's word over ours. If you get the entire playerbase and their big names in on it, then it shows solidarity that the entire community doesn't think its right.

Importantly, be sure to include links to the data and the petition in the initial post. It will just become a huge mess if there's a million different posts about all these things and will just get swept under the rug for spamming subreddits.

Post it to GTAV and Dokkan's subreddit and say we're trying to do what they managed to pull off and need help.

Post it to r/gaming and all other video game related subs and hope to christ the upvotes add up to make the front page.

Hell create a god damn subreddit to further organize the posts, data, and info and add the link to the sub in the post and just cross post and whatnot to make sure all of the posts link to the main post.

Heres a template for the post that would be canvased across the subreddits:

(Dont actually use this, since im literally just bullshitting an example)

"Hello r/ ____, as an enthusiast of (whatever the sub you decide to post in is), I'm sure you can all appreciate and relate to the feeling of being screwed by (game's company) and wanting to make a difference. As you all know lootcrates are becoming an issue resembling gambling, Gacha games are the exact same thing, etc etc etc. State your case, provide examples. Provide data and info, etc.

If you don't mind taking the time to go to this sub/post (link sub or main flagship post) and reading the info we have acquired, it would be appreciated. If you feel moved or appreciate the effort and what it stands for, we also have a petition linked in the post for signatures.

If you further want to support the cause, feel free to repost this post you are reading to any related subreddits that involve loot crates, gacha, or any form of freemium games that basically involve a form of gambling one way or another.

Thank you for your time.

Its as simple as that and if there's enough people who feel for this cause (and there probably will be considering how many people are getting pissed about freemium game structures are leaking into actual video games with loot crates and all that), then the upvotes and reposts could potentially lead to the front page and even whatever news websites (legit or clickbait, doesnt matter), gets their ideas from Reddit and bam. Attention received.

Its just a matter of organizing it and actually getting support. This sub is divided can be toxic as all hell sometimes, and its shit like that that makes anything we want to change end up being swept under the rug.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't affect you cause you're on a different server or version, show some solidarity in the fact you're all playing the same game, but that a lot of the players are not getting what they were told because the company itself isn't treating them the same. This isn't about content. Nor is it about permanent skill up, movie raids, or any of the meme-worthy things shitposted about. This is about a company exploiting the gambling vice many people have by manipulating individual unit rates and the players themselves depending on their volume of play.

"Rates are different for high volume players" alone should cause enough of a shit storm because that affects everybody. They're literally shifting rates on a per player basis here. You play nonstop hours at a time every day? Cool you can buy gems and get shit pulls, you'll keep playing anyway. You buy gems and do a multi every sugo? Even better, your rates will be lowered cause you'll just keep doing it anyway, we already hooked you in and youre already addicted. Oh wait, you play every now and then on natural stamina and haven't bought gems yet? We'll give you a legend to unleash that endorphin rush and get you to irrationally buy more gems and keep pulling, and oh btw, we lowered your rates again.

Lmfao my bad for the rant. But my point stands. Lets work together and be the change we want people. Solidarity.

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u/StNowhere Surf Clam Pirates - 53 Legends Sep 23 '17

Third Step: Bring in the big names and streamers like Zeenigami

I agree with this, but I feel like for this to get attention, we need to bring this issue outside our bubble. We need to get this to mainstream gaming outlets.

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u/Shuazilla LL, SWA, Zoro, Croc, Doffy, WB+, Lucci, SWS, Ray, Cora, Cavendis Sep 23 '17

Keep reading lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '17

Zeenigami's video. Global controversy starts around 7:11. Link. I'd urge you all to watch it through.

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u/lava_lizard Sep 23 '17

Please go to the DOKKAN, naruto blazing, r/gaming etc. Reddits and upvote the threads asking for help there, every little helps

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u/xManianx Promising Rookie Sep 23 '17 edited Sep 23 '17

I just tweeted Toadski and asked him whether he could do a seperate video regarding that topic. With almost 20k subs, he has a huge audience. Since he is affected himself, I'm sure he's gonna support the community. Will edit this post once he got back to me.

Edit 1: I also reached out to TheVerge, a multimedia for technology in the United States and pitched the story. They have a massive audience. Will edit again if they happen to get back to me.

Edit 2: Tweeted Rhymestyle and Nanogenix as well. They play Dokkan mostly, but since Bandai owns them all, the two might be interested in the story.

Edit 3: Toadski just got back to me saying, I quote "@Toadskii: @xmanianx I have been looking into this and honestly I’m waiting for a little more info as to how these rates were compiled. If there was solid proof then I would greatly consider a video discussing this." Maybe we can bring heathtech into the conversation here?

Edit 4: Boris is going to upload a video shortly addressing the controversy.

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u/HBK_Paladin Shut up and take my money! Sep 24 '17

I saw Boris video and I was disappointed... Wait for the legend after 3. Multipull or switch to Japan... But what should be expected from a japan player, Who dumped his global account? Also the comments from Japan players... Instead of Support they also just say "Switch, because global is shit". That is unfair for all players who invested a lot of time in their accounts!

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u/Redhawk135 Promising Rookie Sep 24 '17

900 days in global ... switch?

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u/HBK_Paladin Shut up and take my money! Sep 24 '17

For Japan Version Players it's an easy say, because they don't have this issue. They don't have to start again, grind again. Dumping my Account would be like burning the Going Merry again. Never! Before that I just quit completely. And I "just" have an 606 Day Account

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '17

With the current event I got enough guaranteed skill-ups from special tomes to max the specials of both Boa Sisters. And it's just the first day of the event. I will easily finish off Ikaros and Diamante for this team, which is leagues above anything I could currently make in Global: http://optc-db.github.io/damage/#/transfer/D1763:99,1588:99,1743:99,1741:99,1595:99,1700:99C1,10B0D0E1365Q0L0G0R15S100H

The legend book drops are also much better, I'm almost at 30 Legend Sanji books from the current Kinemon FN. If anything I'm apalled by how fast I'm progressing.

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u/xManianx Promising Rookie Sep 24 '17

I can relate to your argument. However, Boris definitely made a good point in his video by saying we have to wait it out. In more direct terms, this means that noone, from big whales to occasional p2ps, should spend any money in the game until we get what we demand > more transparency. He could have stressed this a little better, I agree on that. There is nothing that hurts Bandai's Treasure Cruise department more than plummeting profit.

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u/Gol_D_Chris Sep 24 '17

I have a second account with which I play on JPN, but the thing is:

It´s still Bandais game, it doesn´t matter if I buy gems for Global or JPN - Bandai gets the money.

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u/Hi_im_Duvakiin Sep 23 '17

Tweet it to Zeenigami, AsianGuy, Sekapoko and Boris as well. If you can't, I'll do.

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u/xManianx Promising Rookie Sep 23 '17

Zeeni just tweeted that he has contacted BandaiUS and is waiting for their response. Sekapoko uploaded a video on the topic earlier today. I reached out to Boris, waiting for him to get back to me.

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u/Trueyes The Lucky Pirates Sep 23 '17

We Have began a revolution, as consumers we have power. It is time we exercise that power.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '17

Perfect time for that justice quuote by do flamingo

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u/pad2016 [JPN] AceMasters 60 Sugos - 284 626 337 Sep 23 '17

I respect your passion but unfortunately there is no way this news could gain the kind of traction you want it to on reddit overall. The game doesn’t have a large enough fanbase, and a VERY small amount of people who don’t play would care. A more reasonable solution is to spread it to everyone who does play and convince them to stop playing entirely or stop giving Bandai money.

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u/FlashCamm Promising Rookie Sep 23 '17

Regardless I do believe it has the potential to gain the kind of attention that people would want it to. Even if it didn't make it as a super huge story via known news outlets, as long as the community of OPTC global players are very aware, then that's what could have the impact on the company and I would bet they'd change their practice if they knew a real problem was going to arise. If it's aimed high enough then that could be what raises our group of players right where we feel like we deserve to be. Justice should supersede the thought that someone would fail, one man is no man; create a movement people believe in and reach your destination

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u/InnerCityMathWiz Sep 23 '17

Don't feel bad when this only hits the front page of this subreddit for a few hours.

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u/RiskyR The boy who cried Usopp Sep 23 '17

Or if it even makes it that far.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '17

Here, I made a post about it on /r/Dankmemes

https://www.reddit.com/r/dankmemes/comments/76g6au/tsk_tsk_tsk/

I suppose it won't get many upvotes, but if it does, you know the memelords there will ask about it, and it'll probably get lots of awareness.

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u/oblivionmrl Noble Rage Oct 22 '17

Glad I've already moved on, what a shitstorm.