Saturn is one of the most well-written hypocritical frauds I've seen in a while.

[u/sami_newgate]

Despite proclaiming that he is a god, This guy just proves that he is a human every time he appears on screen.

He is so insecure and he needs so bad to prove that he is superior to others, even someone who is a slave like Kuma. Which is contrasted by the other gorousei who are pretty self-confident and don't need to prove anything. He fits the theme of Human contradiction so well, which is the main theme of the arc.

Everything he does gets back at him, He experimented on Ginny but ended up making a mini nika, He ordered the wiping of Kuma's personality but he was still able to protect bonney with willpower alone, and finally he allowed luffy to escape by refusing to destroy Emet.

It is ironic. in Kuma's flashback, He told him that he can't understand why humans always try to do what they are told not to do, But he ends up dying because of disobeying orders and refusing to destroy the robot. It was because of his human need to prove himself that he disobeyed orders just like the people he consider insects. It is poetic.

He is a horrible person but an amazing character. I love him so much.

RIP my fraud king.

[u/InvaderDJ]

I wouldn’t call them puppets. They are children with unimaginable privilege and wealth. They don’t really do much of anything but do and take what they want knowing that if anyone tries to stop them they have powerful protection.

I’m actually curious on why the Elders and Imu even allow them to exist. They really contribute nothing.

[u/sami_newgate → u/InvaderDJ]

You don’t have to be curious. The reason was told to us multiple times actually.

You saw what happened to mjosgard. They are not even allowed to be good people. They are emptied and dehumanized through systematic brain washing. That’s why Doflamingo became like that. After all the brainwashing about being a god. He couldn’t process the life of humans and could never accept it.

The celestial dragons are a symbol for control and order. They are higher beings who are apparently capable of doing everything.

There is a reason that made Oda introduce them in the summit war saga. Because there the theme of the symbol was explored in depth. The celestial dragons are like roger or Whitebeard for the pirates. They are empowering figures. Their existence ensures peace.

In reverie, Lucci said “Gods aren’t bound by logic”. That’s why the celestial dragons were dehumanized. The gorousei and imu needed them to feel different from humans.

[u/InvaderDJ → u/sami_newgate]

You saw what happened to mjosgard. They are not even allowed to be good people. They are emptied and dehumanized through systematic brain washing. That’s why Doflamingo became like that. After all the brainwashing about being a god. He couldn’t process the life of humans and could never accept it.

But what does that get Imu? The generic CDs contribute nothing and don’t help their agenda. They are just…there. Being selfish children who have been told from birth that they are gods.

CDs like the Holy Knights and Elders are actually useful. They actually protect the CDs and make actual laws and rules. But the generic ones like Charlos don’t seem to do anything. They’re actually liabilities.

[u/sami_newgate → u/InvaderDJ]

As I said, there existence as an entity is enough as a symbol of order and control. Some of them are selected to have actual productive roles.