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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1115 Spoiler

Chapter 1115: "Continental Fragments"

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Ch. 1115 Official Release (Mangaplus): 05/27/2024

Ch. 1116 Scan Release: ~05/31/2024 - No break!

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u/Pemols Bounty Hunter May 23 '24 edited May 23 '24

Hits hard doesn't it? It just feels strange that there are CONTINENTS with huge towns and castles and buildings underwater and no fishmen found it weird or even tried to consider how did all that got sunken in the first place?

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u/ResearchNervous992 Thriller Bark Victim's Association May 23 '24

Highly doubt the fishmen are just swimming all over the seas. Their main place seems to be FMI under MarieJois.

But one thing comes to mind tho. That cover story where Jinbei found a Poneglyph in an underwater sunken city.

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u/Darkkingswrath May 23 '24

Hachi's cover story too. I remember some fish living in a sunken town that Hachi visited. It's a crime the anime didnt adapted this.

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u/Goldtec317 May 24 '24

I´m pretty sure at the time people would be complaining pretty hard about a filler episode of Hachi visiting a fish.

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u/Darkkingswrath May 24 '24

but it's not filler its canon material that shows how Hatchi met Camie and started his Takoyaki business.

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u/Goldtec317 May 24 '24

I think you greatly overestimate how much people at the time would give a fuck about that. I can't think of a better way to piss over viewers then breaking away from Ennies Lobby to follow Hatchi opening a Takoyaki stand

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u/limonaccio May 24 '24

They give us all the flashback of straw hats lol

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u/Goldtec317 May 24 '24

Strawhats are considerably more important to the viewers.

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u/MojitoSuave May 26 '24

There is a LOT of filler and recapping in the anime... even if the current arc didn't have enough space to slot the Hachi storyline in during an important moment there was absolutely time to fit it in somewhere later - the timing really didn't matter with that one. The anime is, what, 20-30% bloat? Maybe even more. Just throw it in a filler episode if it's that big of a deal.

Cover stories are frequently treated as more of a "what if" scenario though so I don't blame the studio for ignoring them if Oda never directly told them it was important.

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u/Spezisaspastic May 24 '24

The anime is a crime.

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u/Zylgp May 23 '24

That would also explain the relentless persecution of fish folk because its history began with the WG trying to hide the facts about what happened in the past.

Persecute them until they find 1 little haven when it becomes much easier to control them, eventually reaching the point of political discourse after hundreds of years.

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u/LivinLivinboi May 23 '24

Holy shit know it all makes sense.. Oda is a genius

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u/Darkkingswrath May 23 '24

For 27 years it’s been a fun little pirate manga laying some clues of a grander story and now it’s all coming together

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u/Kuliyayoi May 24 '24

Oh please. It stopped being a "fun little pirate manga" and became a never ending mystery within the first couple hundred chapters. Whenever alabasta was.

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u/Justinformation May 24 '24

I figured they were about forced to (re)locate under Mary Geoise since that's the only location where they couldn't get blown up.

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u/DisneyPandora May 25 '24

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Fishfolk are the Ancient Kingdom 

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u/Zer0323 May 23 '24

that's probably because of the sea currents. when they were going to fishman island there was a current that pushed them downward and then back away from the red line. that probably kept people from traveling on the sea floor.

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u/Zaranius May 24 '24

Right but the red line likely hasn’t always been around. Very curious to see how this all comes together. :o

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u/Sername6996 May 24 '24

Oh, notice how the kingdoms presumably connected to JoyBoy or the Ancient Kingdom all have poneglyphs within them, even having road poneglyphs. Whatever it is, it seems like Nefertari Lili was able to scatter these road poneglyphs to where they're intended to be and maybe the aftermath of the Void Century was the "cleansing" flooding the world so that no one can go near the poneglyphs at all.

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u/TheDELFON Explorer May 23 '24

Ayyyye.... Good catch on that

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u/AnaatthiGozo May 23 '24

Some probably did, but the whole fishman race has been suppressed as slaves or as "fish" for hundreds of years, probably to keep them from spreading the word above water.

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u/MysticZihark May 23 '24

Exactly. And who will they tell it? They would need to find historicans who are interested in those stories and therefor travel around cities which on the other hand can be dangerous.

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u/Jwruth May 24 '24

Hell, building off of this, how would they even know that it used to be human settlements; they've largely lost the history of the void century just as much as anyone else. The average fishman might find them and think "Wow; look at these ancient ruins. I wonder if this is how fishmen lived in the past?"

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u/fauxromanou May 23 '24

Hell, and they were probably repressed as slaves explicitly because they could happen upon the evidence more easily.

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u/Particular_Belt4028 The Revolutionary Army May 23 '24

Solid explanation that's more than being racist

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u/zezq May 24 '24

or fishmen are one of joyboy ally which is why they got treat that way.

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u/MojitoSuave May 26 '24

Probably both, given that Joy Boy is confirmed to be a friend of Shirahoshi's ancient predecessor.

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u/Doomroar May 24 '24

They could just make multiple settlements re-appropriating all those different sea ruins around the world

200m is not that deep, so the issue of sunlight wouldn't play as big a role as it does for the Ryuu-gu kingdom, and we have seen underwater sea towns populated by small sea monsters (Jinbei cover story), and by rouge mermaids (Hachi cover story)

Since they would still be living underwater persecuting and hunting them would still be hard, so i don't see why that's not more common

Unless it turns out that it is, and Oda is not showing us, just like how there seems to be other Giant kingdoms apart from Elbaf, like the one Saul comes from

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u/paullx May 23 '24

In the darkness of the sea? Have you forgotten why they live in fishman island?

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u/Kokks May 23 '24

the light kinda traps them into FMI, likes flies.

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u/ArcadianBlueRogue Void Month Survivor May 23 '24

You know, that is a SUPER good point. I was wondering the same thing about the Fishmen not seeming in on the scam but yeah, light travels down the trees and I forgot till you said something.

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u/Buscemi_D_Sanji May 23 '24

You mean when the two fishmen we've seen exploring underwater have no problem seeing things anywhere they've gone?

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u/Doomroar May 24 '24

It is just 200 meters deep, at that point the darkness is not that big of an issue, compared to FI which is 10000 meters deep

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u/Vendricksbeard May 24 '24

Mate just 200 meters? You can't see shit at 100 meters, light doesn't go that far.

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u/Doomroar May 24 '24

It actually goes that far, the twilight zone starts precisely below that point, so any ruins that sank at higher altitude would get a comfortable amount of light, like the ones the Seabeast where living in on Jinbei's cover story

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u/kykusanagi May 24 '24

Not just 200 meters deep but the sea level ROSE 200 meters, how can many people misunderstood about this.

Even when the old land is "only" 200m deep, the whole ocean is deeper than that. And it's probably not just one continent that's sunked, there were probably 7 continents like our world or maybe more, not to mention all the islands. Finding city, town, village or any trace of civilization in one big island is not easy, let alone continent.

Here's the thing, do you know that people can easily lost and disoriented under the sea even if it's just 20m deep? people got lost all the time at LAND, fishmen would too at 200 meters..in a very big One Piece world.

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u/Doomroar May 25 '24

No no, you are the one with the weird misconception that most land mass exist at sea level, the sea raising 200 meters doesn't means everything ends up under 200 meters

If your home town is at an altitude of 100m above sea water

And the sea rises 200 meters

It means that it ends submerged under 100 meters of water

Statistically speaking a lot of landmass would be quite accessible for fishmen to live in relatively close to sunlight, because while a lot of places would end underwater, it doesn't means that they all end 200 m deep, or even below 200 m

Fishmen can comfortably navigate the seafloor at depths of 10000m, without any issues, and we get to see them finding old ruins each time a cover story focuses on them, Jinbei cover story? he finds ruins, Hachi cover story? he finds ruins, Pappag cover story? he finds ruins

The sea floor has ruins all around it, but we never knew how important they were until this chapter, Jinbei even got a poneglyph out of the ruins he dealt with

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u/QuaranFine Thriller Bark Victim's Association May 23 '24

In both Hachi and Jimbei's cover stories they encounter underwater ruins. The One Piece world has a level of isolation that extends even to the Fishman race. Promoting awareness of underwater ruins isn't a priority when you go through centuries of persecution from the world above. Heck, for ~600 years after the void century Fishmen that go to the surface to spread awareness of the ruins would be hunted or treated like animals.

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u/Sasukuto May 23 '24

I mean, it happened 800 years ago. And given how represed every fishman was, i think its easy for them to assume that those cities where built by anciet fishman, then abandoned once they where taken into slavery. Honestly that would be one of my theories if I just saw the underwater shot with no other context.

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u/Pemols Bounty Hunter May 23 '24

That's an amazing theory

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u/ikanx May 23 '24

Their population probably not that much to really explore the whole world. Not to mention they're actively being traded as slaves. And the ones we do know travel (Arlong, Fisher Tiger), travel using ships on the sea surface.

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u/ThatBadassonline The Revolutionary Army May 23 '24

Here’s an idea. We saw sea kings around that long submerged city yes? There must be more than just one, there must be hundreds of ruins down in the depths.

What if the reason that, despite living in the ocean, Fishmen and Mermen rarely/never came across these sites is because…..they‘re mostly at the bottom of the Calm Belts?

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u/kykusanagi May 24 '24

I like the idea that Grand Line was a continent

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u/Narrow_Helicopter278 May 23 '24

Considering how strong some of the wildlife in One Piece is, I think it is safe to say that the vast, vast majority of fishmen would be filleted instantly if they moved out into the wilds of the ocean.

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u/Fottrad The Revolutionary Army May 23 '24

Jimbei found one in the Punk hazard cover stories

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u/Worthyness May 23 '24

They're still one fishman in the literal ocean. even if there was a massive civilization, there'd still be vast amounts of land between cities. We in the real world haven't even fully explored the entire ocean seafloor and we've had thousands of years to try and do so. How can you expect fishmen to do the same?

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u/Pemols Bounty Hunter May 23 '24

Well... They breath underwater. If we could do so I'm definitely sure we would have explored a lot more

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u/Daeavorn May 24 '24

More importantly they're resistant to pressure as well

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u/kykusanagi May 24 '24

Here's the thing, people got lost all the time at LAND, fishmen would too...in a very big One Piece world. Assuming Fishmen also don't have the technology to explore the whole ocean, there's a slim chance they would find underwater world. Especially when they've been dealing with their own problem for all these time.

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u/Roskal Black Leg Sanji May 23 '24

Didn't they say the only light under the sea is at fishman island, so maybe they can't see it because its too dark.

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u/AnActualPlatypus May 23 '24

200m rising of sea level is beyond catastrophic, it's cataclysmic. That kind of rise would flood 99% of Earth's surface.

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u/caiodepauli May 23 '24

That kind of rise would flood 99% of Earth's surface.

Far from it, more like 20%, but that's still huge. You can check how it would be over here (defaults to 400m though)

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u/Hairy_Acanthisitta25 May 23 '24

maybe you mean currently occupied by human space?cause aint no way 99% of surface would be flooded

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u/guitarburst05 May 23 '24

Fairly believable then eh? How much of the One Piece world do you figure remains above water? 1% could easily be a good number. Even 2 or 3% is still an immense cataclysm.

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u/alfirous May 23 '24

Only skyscrapers and mountains will survive.

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u/Kuro013 May 23 '24

I guess sinking the whole Continent was the only way to defeat the ancient kingdom. Also, the fishmen live in their island, the AK could be anywhere, my guess is below reverse mountain (X marks the spot theory), which would mean its on the opposite side of the world for them.

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u/RHCProy Void Month Survivor May 23 '24

FI is 10k m underwater, and the sea level "only" rose 200 m. So it's not like all those ruins are at the sea bed, just underwater. Also, the sea is vast.

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u/robberviet May 24 '24

Now there are more reasons for CD ro enslave fishman. They cannot be let roam free.

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u/2mustange Explorer May 24 '24

Might be a reason why they has been huge prejudice against fisherman. Might be why they have been hunted and somewhat contained

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u/gondi56k May 23 '24

Doesn't the tree that provides sunlight for them also provide air?

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u/Phusra May 28 '24

What if they didn't find it weird because Joy Boy used his incrdily powerful fruit to imagine some of the people who were stuck in those towns and castles as a type of person who can survive on water and on land...

Meaning the Fishmen might've had some knowledge, at least at the highest levels, of what those structures used to be or what they used to be! Obviously even that has been lost to time, or Neptune kept it SUPER close to the chest because it wasn't information he thought the Strawhats would need.

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u/Sir-Thugnificent May 23 '24

Because plot convenience