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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1110 Spoiler

Chapter 1110: "Planetfall"

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Ch. 1111 Official Release (Mangaplus): 23/03/2024

Ch. 1110 Scan Release: ~17/032024

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u/bioiskillingme Mar 15 '24

The black clouds surrounding the 5 elders and Lucci....vs the white clouds around Gear 5 Luffy. Oda is cooking something spicy!!

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u/IRefuseThisNonsense Mar 15 '24

Yamato also had something similar in their transformation, but it was light colored as well. Perhaps it's a sign of morality?

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u/Echleon Mar 15 '24

I think most theories are that black cloud = forced awakening

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u/InvaderDJ Void Month Survivor Mar 15 '24

I kind of doubt their awakenings are forced. My guess is that black is just for non god DFs. So regular zoans and whatever these are will have black clouds but gods like Nika and Yamato’s wolf Okuchi no Makami are white.

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u/Frednd21 Mar 17 '24

I do get what you mean that should be skilled and have awakened their fruits naturally. But now with all the black magic, magic circles and telepathy it does make me think that the gorosei/WG use different methods to awaken.

I mean they might even know more stuff about devil fruits that we don't know yet so I think its possible

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u/andremeda Mar 16 '24

I’m gonna be nitpicky here. Let’s not forget that Luffy’s fruit isn’t a god fruit. It’s the Nika fruit, and Nika had the epithet Sun God. The fruit isn’t necessarily godly or anything.

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u/2th Mar 16 '24

It's the Hito Hito no MI Model Nika. Same as Sengoku having the Hito Hito no MI Model Daibutsu and Onimaru having the Model Onyudo.

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u/sack_of_potahtoes The Revolutionary Army Mar 15 '24

Wasnt it to show awakening?

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u/IRefuseThisNonsense Mar 15 '24

Yes, but as the other person and myself have pointed out six antagonists have black flame like clouds and two good characters have white ones. We're wondering if there's a reason for this beyond just "visual distinction of good and bad".

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u/heyoyo10 Mar 15 '24

But Monster Point Chopper didn't have clouds at all, and Lucci is just a Leopard Zoan so you can't really pull the Mythical Argument here either

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u/IRefuseThisNonsense Mar 15 '24

MP Chopper is a weird example. Kid works under bizarre means compared to the ones we know of. Theirs seems to be from effort in honing their powers but Chopper is kind of using Creator Controls to just bypass that to get the results. So that one could just be a weird situation. Which may be how the prison guards work too given they act more like pre time skip MP than any other awaken we've been seeing lately. His is just a weird case, as are they, compared to what we've seen.

And you're right that Lucci is just a leopard, and that just makes it weirder. If he didn't have it we could just handwave it as a Mythical Awakening thing...but he does have it. So it's further weird that way that there are now seven characters we know of with this that all have Zoans but one is a normal animal compared to the six mythicals and two of those also have white clouds as opposed to the black clouds of the others. It's odd but it is a conscious choice by Oda, so we're trying to figure out why these ones have it.

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u/discospider765 Mar 15 '24

Doesn't Kaku also have the black flames when he awakens?

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u/IRefuseThisNonsense Mar 15 '24

I'm gonna be honest with you, he's been such a nothing presence this arc that I forgot he was even there. Let alone that, yes you are right, he also has it.

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u/discospider765 Mar 16 '24

I agree it’s a conscious choice. I think it’s to differentiate the good guys and the bad tbh but also maybe you could say mythical “good” gods have it like Nika and Yamato and everyone else has black clouds

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u/HulklingsBoyfriend Mar 15 '24

IIRC I believe the Impel Down guards were confirmed to be "failed" Awakenings.

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u/CelioHogane Mar 15 '24

Monster Point Chopper is not an awakening, it's just a wierd ass form.

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u/Frednd21 Mar 17 '24

Monster Point Chopper is definitely not awakening, not even close. And if it was it wouldn't be a 'natural' awakening hence no clouds, just like the jailers at impel down

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u/Frednd21 Mar 17 '24

Monster Point Chopper is definitely not awakening, not even close. And if it was it wouldn't be a 'natural' awakening hence no clouds, just like the jailers at impel down

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u/Izakytan Mar 15 '24

He is evil. His backstory stated that he joined CP9 just to have a permit to kill.

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u/IRefuseThisNonsense Mar 15 '24

Remember that time he was doing his job and willing killed the hostages just because he got a cheap thrill out of murder? Yeah, I do.

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u/logiwave Mar 15 '24

be fr lmao

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u/anon-345999 Mar 15 '24

His haki is passive in G5. Kaido states he uses CoC and coa simultaneously

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u/UltimateToa Mar 15 '24

Idk luffy literally says this is his peak and has ragdolled everyone so far. Idk if he even needs another power up other than a buff to his time limit

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u/echolog Mar 15 '24

I think from this point on, his power-ups will be entirely technique-based. The entire core of G5 is the 'power of imagination' so he'll need to just start being more creative with his fighting style.

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u/evanthebouncy Mar 15 '24

Just like the old times! Luffy vs enel was my all time favorite

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u/UltimateToa Mar 15 '24

As seen last chapter with cymbal + pizza

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u/anon-345999 Mar 15 '24

I feel like the white hash is symbolic, Luffy’s is meant to be different than other zoans. And black fists have always been a way to highlight dense haki, though it’s not always shown.

I don’t think he’ll have a power-up as much as just mastering his peak form.

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u/Kuro013 Mar 15 '24

Its clearly a sign of them being awakened. But the colors are indeed very intriguing. Could it be that there's evil/good alienation for fruits? Is Luffy the only one with white because its a fruit based on a deity? Kaido had black clouds as well. Maybe Sengoku also has white clouds (idr if he showed any clouds back in Marineford). I wanna know so badly.

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u/Richard_Fineman Mar 15 '24

Noticeably however, the gorosei are not described as having devil fruits. They’re simply described as different beasts/yōkai. I’m starting to wonder if they live entirely outside the realm of “awakening” in general.

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u/HulklingsBoyfriend Mar 15 '24

They could be the result of a Devil Fruit, like some Six Paths of Pain type thing. Kinda weird that they all have fucked up eyes and all come from shadows and have a linked up mind.

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u/Richard_Fineman Mar 15 '24

Yeah I’m wondering maybe if they’re connected but I think even then, while it could be a devil fruit-adjacent concept it might be something like. The original Devil fruits, or perhaps even a predecessor to DF technology

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u/Khan_Bomb Mar 16 '24

Artur was theorizing that the reason they may have such long distance telepathy is because they're satellites (planets) of Imu similar to the satellites of Vegapunk.

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u/Frednd21 Mar 17 '24

Yh I'm not 100% sure but Im starting to wonder if the gorosei are even 'people'.

Like what if you could extract the essence of a devil fruit and turn it into a person (kinda like feeding a df to a object lol). Its so weird to predict where this is going

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u/Kuro013 Mar 15 '24

Yeah that caught my attention too, wonder if Oda just forgot or hes cooking.

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u/Richard_Fineman Mar 15 '24

Their powers just don’t exactly line up with how devil fruits usually work! It’s close, but juuust far enough off to the point where it leaves some doubt. Considering their stance in the world/names/powers/mystery of their origin, I think there’s something larger at play. Would be cool to see if they were part of some other race/group entirely.

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u/HulklingsBoyfriend Mar 15 '24

Maybe? But Sengoku is a fucking murderous nutjob, and the Azure Dragon is a benevolent being in mythology, although Kaido is evil.

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u/Kuro013 Mar 15 '24

Maybe it reveals the color of your soul or something corny like that, Yamato also had clear colored clouds.

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u/CelioHogane Mar 15 '24

Kaido had no clouds, he was not Awakened.

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u/Frednd21 Mar 17 '24

Kaido doesn't have black clouds. He has the flame clouds that are part of the azure dragon df powers

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u/Roskal Black Leg Sanji Mar 15 '24

Might not be all black, they could be all different colours.

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u/WhiteImpDragon Pirate Mar 15 '24

Lucci has also black clouds

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u/Cirenione Mar 15 '24

The black clouds around a giant worm with human teeth do look a bit silly though.

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u/Sure_Dave Mar 15 '24

Good catch, I can't believe I overlooked that

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u/CelioHogane Mar 15 '24

Kaku also had it, by the way.

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u/NihilisticOnion Mar 15 '24

As we know, black = bad

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u/yosayoran Mar 15 '24

Zoro is that you? 

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u/echolog Mar 15 '24

Curious what this means in regards to Kaido, since he also had these flame around his arms in his dragon form... but not in any other form.

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u/Unabashable Mar 15 '24

Could be wrong but I don’t remember them being a wreath. I think they were just his flame clouds that he used to fly. Although why Kaido wouldn’t have been awakened I have no idea.

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u/HulklingsBoyfriend Mar 15 '24

I refuse to believe Admirals and Yonko aren't Awakened. Out of all characters in One Piece, they and the G5/Imu should absolutely be Awakened.

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u/Frednd21 Mar 17 '24

Nah for Kaido it could make sense as he's been portrayed as more of a brute and mentally unstable , whereas awakening seems to require some sort of 'enlightenment'.

So kaido thro his brute force managed to just reach such levels of powers without ever awakening. I do believe if Kaido returns to the story he will probably awaken by then