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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1105 Spoiler

Chapter 1105: "The Height of Folly"

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Ch. 1105 Official Release (Mangaplus): 28/01/2024

Ch. 1106 Scan Release: ~02/02/2023

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

It's the Grand Fleet.

In Chapter 800 we're introduced to the Grand Fleet, and the narrator tells us that they will "cause a great incident of historic proportions"

In Egghead, the narrator tells us that there will be an incident that shocks the world.

Considering that the narrator doesn't often go around talking about "this incident" and "that incident", it seems pretty obvious that the Grand Fleet would be on their way.

As to why they've come, because I don't think it makes sense that they came for a rescue mission...

It's quite obvious they all, individually, decided to come and congratulate Luffy on becoming a Yonko. As they noticed that they all had the same idea, they started to race to be the first ones there. The Marine ship got in the way of this race, so they destroyed it.

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u/stevenrolliton Jan 26 '24

Grandfleet is end game stuff I keep saying this.

If luffy and his fleet defeat the marines here and now they no longer poise a significant threat.

It's too soon for the grand fleet to mobilize and mount an assault. And then what occurs after this? Straw hats wave goodbye and head to elbaf while the 4 other elders debate on what to do next?

No it's obvious whoever it is is truly a third party. Blackbeard makes the most sense. Think about the last few cliffhangers that still are unresolved. They set up blackbeards ship there a day before the assault sitting off the coast. If it's the grand fleet what would they do with bb fight him too? Too early.

BB has a warp warp fruit user that teleported to whole cake and then came back no issues. So the members on that ship could tell bb about what's going on and he could easily have his crew WARP him there after his fight with law to see what he can take.

Another cliffhanger was that massive robot that attacked the wg years ago and never turned back on. Well when it heard luffy recently it turned back on and they have no other means of transportation because vegapunks robot got destroyed so how will they get the sunny out of there. We'll great there's a new robot that can get them out of there that luffy can probably control since it responded to the beat of luffys drums just like Zou did. Not only can this robot provide protection against the buster call but also a means to carry the sunny away so they can do a coup de burst.

Again if it's the grand fleet those two cliffhangers make no sense. The robot wouldn't be as needed and bbs crew might as well run away because they aren't going to fight luffy and his grand fleet that has no more reason to run.

Plus remember the paper came out that morning. No way they would mobilize in the span of a day. Just like the Rev is stuck on the other side of the red line.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

It's like you didn't even read my comment, then pulled a bunch of crap out of your butt.

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u/stevenrolliton Jan 26 '24

I did that's the funny part. Grandfleet is end game stuff. They're trying to escape not defeat the marines here. Escape. The robot will allow them to escape. Whoever this is is a 3rd party for sure.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

Ya but the Grand Fleet being endgame is something you straight up pulled out your ass, you don't know that and for all you know Egghead could kick off into the endgame. It is the first arc of the final saga, after all.

The narrator has practically told us the Grand Fleet will be here, Oda used some pretty precise wording here. I'm more I claimed to believe that than a bunch of conjecture you made up

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u/stevenrolliton Jan 26 '24

No actually since we are in the final saga, key word FINAL, then oda cannot over use the grandfleet as a get out of jail free card.

Oda said there will be a war bigger than marine Ford. Most likely it starts on elbaf, the next destination.

We can be sure the grandfleet will take part in it.

We know this is not the war bigger than marineford because this isn't a war, it's a seige.

So that means oda will have to use the grandfleet mechanism more than once as an excuse to give luffy support. Therefore it will water down the impact of the grandfleet in the store. Remember the first time we saw the whitebeard pirates grand fleet? How impressive it was. Yeah if that kept happening it wouldn't really had been.

My question is what would happen after if the grandfleet fights here? Luffy says thanks guys see you later and they go their separate ways again? Luffy said follow me to elbaf and has his entire fleet with him while luffy does some exploring? That's not how the grandfleet works. They are not his lackies, this isn't buggys crew that want to come rush to congratulate him, they are partners and will show up when the situation calls for it. And if luffy dying in wano didn't call for it on top of the battle with two emperors then a seige in egghead where luffy is painted out to be a villian holding vegapunk hostage wouldn't necessarily call for it since the papers didn't say luffy was fighting 100 battleships and an elder star and admiral.

Instead oda gave us a robot that can help bail them out and give them a means to escape and a blackbeard pirateship.

For all we know it could be someone completely unexpected like mad monk. But I highly doubt oda will go all in with the grand fleet at this point in the story.

It also said the grandfleet will cause an incident of historic significance, while this one said an incident that will shock the world. Two different terms

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '24

An incident that shocks the world will very likely have historic significance. More importantly than your nitpicking, is that the narrator doesn't throw around "this incident" and "that incident" very often. The fact that the term is seldom used lends itself to its significance.

You're operating under a bunch of assumptions as to how the story will play out, and are trying to fit your theories under these tightly knit threads you've imagined. One Piece doesn't often work that way. Curveballs exist.

You assume the crew only needs to escape Egghead, and that's a fair assumption as that's the current aim of the crew. But what's so shocking about that? "Straw Hat crew escape Egghead island" doesn't exactly scream world shattering news

Could be that they defeat Kizaru and Saturn, but why even escape after the toughest part is done?

I'm not trying to assume how the plot will play out here. All I'm doing is connecting two panels that use pretty precise wording and connecting the dots. It's the best clue we have regarding who might be coming, and makes more sense than any of the other current theories. The Revos are too far away, there's no way Shanks is coming to save the day, it would be very unlike Blackbeard to insert himself in this situation.

And once again, don't know how many times I have to bring this up, but I don't think the Grand Fleet is here with the intent of "saving the day". I either think they've come for a very stupid and unrelated reason (like congratulating Luffy for being a Yonko), or a more serious reason we're not yet privy to (like that they're in hot shit for attacking a Celestial Dragon).

But anyway, we'll see next week! This is going to be my last comment in this thread. Happy reading.

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u/stevenrolliton Jan 30 '24

Your last comment, my last comment.

The narrator said they would grow in power on their own and cause CAUSE an incident of historic account. .

What could they cause here? Unless they show up and kill Saturn when luffy says no or something.

Also they are a bunch of stubborn members in his fleet. The only one that I could see going to congratulate him are Bart and the little guys. Everyone else got their own business to handle then to try to find luffy just to congratulate him which luffy wouldn't want either.

So it would be a waste of an excuse to get them out.

They will show up during the final battle when they are needed. Not now.

And what would shock the world is if straw hat crew escapes with Vega punk, defies another buster call, egghead is destroyed and Saturn is dead caught in the blast and kizuru defeated and cp0.

If that doesn't shock the world I don't know what will?

BTW new spoilers came out and it's not the grand fleet. Happy reading!

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '24

Oh yeah I'm eating the L here. But dory and brogy is hype, but even mad