r/JewsOfConscience Nov 06 '24

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

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u/ulixForReal Non-Jewish Ally Nov 06 '24

How antisemitic is it, that upon learning someone is a Jew, my immediate thought is "they propbably support Israel"?

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u/CJIsABusta Jewish Communist Nov 07 '24

It's fair and most likely correct, but you shouldn't treat them as if they support Israel unless you know for certain that they do.

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u/ulixForReal Non-Jewish Ally Nov 07 '24

I would probably just try to completely avoid the topic.

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u/CJIsABusta Jewish Communist Nov 07 '24

I don't think there's a problem in asking their stance.

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u/loselyconscious Traditionally Radical Nov 08 '24

If it has nothing to do with anything, and you are just bringing it up because they are Jewish, yeah, that is definitely a problem.

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u/ulixForReal Non-Jewish Ally Nov 07 '24

Me neither, at least not in principle. I'll try to avoid it to still be able to think they're good people. Weird and neurotic, I know.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

Hah us anti-Zionist Jews have the same thought 😂. But it’s better to criticize after they express their opinions, not before

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u/sudo_apt-get_intrnet LGBTQ Jew Nov 07 '24

Its definitely antisemitic, even if its not that bad a microaggression. You should probably work on that.

No people-group is a monolith. It is just like assuming any American you meet supports Trump, any Mainland Chinese person supports all the actions of the CCP, or any Russian person supports Putin.

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u/ulixForReal Non-Jewish Ally Nov 07 '24

I know all that obviously. I mean I'm on this sub after all and many of my personal heroes are Jewish people (most of whom had a very critical relationship with Israel). But I'm also German and a bit brainwashed in that regard. Generally I'd say German jewry is disproportianally supportive of Israel when compared to Jews in other countries, the only real exception being Israeli expats.

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u/cupcakefascism Jewish Communist Nov 07 '24

lol I’m a Jew and I think this, because it’s overwhelmingly likely they do and I’m almost always right

People saying ‘no group is a monolith’, yeah they’re not but people aren’t stupid they can see the vast majority of Jews and Jewish political and religious orgs support Israel. It’s not like ISIS where Muslims and their institutions were bending over backwards to condemn them, and most people fighting them and getting killed by them were also Muslim.

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u/CarpeDiemMaybe Non-Jewish Ally Nov 08 '24

For me it’s the sheer volume and unanimity of the institutions, religious leaders, public figures and social media accounts of loud and proud Jews who are fiercely zionist and pro genocide that makes me stop and think twice. It’s awful because I hate generalizing and especially hate talking about people in an essentialist way, but all of that makes it hard for me to not generalize

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u/cupcakefascism Jewish Communist Nov 08 '24

Yeah exactly, it’s not like assuming all Americans support Trump because you know about 50% of them don’t. That’s demonstrably not true about Jews and Israel, and it’s political gaslighting to pretend otherwise

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