Rising Antisemitism

[u/fleshurinal]

I have witnessed so much antisemitism everytime I go online it's starting to become worrying. I see non Jewish leftists say that antisemitism isn't a real problem for Jews in America, usually being boiled down to "most Jews are white, rich, and have never experienced antisemitic violence physically". Yet antisemitism is rising and is a real problem that we should still consider in this time of jewish identity being weaponized and the jewish supremacy that is enacted in Occupied Palestine. Stating "most jews are white" seems harmful and also just false. Also Jews have always been hesitant to be apart of surveys so it's hard to find legitimate info on these things. Am I alone in this?

EDIT: I am not talking about any specific statistics or surveys. This is based on what I've personally seen scrolling on social media. I understand/agree there isn't a clear way to see that based on largely pro zionist orgs. EDIT PT 2: I am not saying that Pro Palestinian sentiment is antisemitism. I am talking about LEGITIMATE antisemitism. This is not a post talking about false accusations of antisemitism based in Zionism.

[u/TailorBird69]

i think Israel gets more attention because it demanded and got reparations from Germany, other European nations, and the US which continually provides arms and funds in order to establish itself as a powerful ally of advanced nations that are democracies. That it has turned into cruel repressor and oppressor of the Palestinian people was not expected. Much more was expected of a nation that itself was a home created for the oppressed Jews, to be a true Democracy. Nobody expects anything of China and China does not care. Israel does, or did. Israel is unique.

[u/BerlinJohn1985 → u/TailorBird69]

Well, first, I am not sure what other countries you are talking about when it comes to reparation payments to Israel. Unless I am missing something, that is definitely not true, so not a good start, considering that the list of countries that received reparations from Germany is about is somewhere near 20, including New Zealand and Australia (you know, countries that exist because of mass genocide of native populations).

Second, I find your description of more was expected of Israel and that is the justification for increased scrutiny to be problematic. Oppression isn't some magical lesson that teaches people to be kind and to oppose forms of oppression. It's psychological effects are complicated and it can create the opposite effect of what you think. Pedagogy of the Oppressed.

Israel is unique is a dangerous statement. Unique how? Creating a home for oppressed Jews does not automatically translate into an open, pluralistic society. In fact, it is most likely to create the opposite. How is it logical that more should be expected of Israel than say France, who killed 1.5 million Algerians, the U.K. which killed hundreds of millions of indigenous peoples, or China, which had an equally brutal history of colonial control and violence acted upon it by outsiders.

Holding communities who have been victimized by oppression and violence to a higher standard than others is a dangerous concept. I hold Israel to the same standard as anyone else when it comes to oppression, genocide, and violence.

[u/TailorBird69 → u/BerlinJohn1985]

The Holocaust victims and their families receive reparations from countries other than Germany and including Germany to this date, and it is well they should for the crimes committed against them and for the looting of their properties. Then when Israel turns around and creates an apartheid state where the Gaza residents don't even have clean water, treated like criminals, hounded out of their homes, then wreaks collective punishment on 42 thousand+ civilians and , a high percentage of them children, then yes Israel gets called out, like President Carter and others have done. Israel had a lot of support from western nations, themselves colonizers. In that respect, yes Israel is unique. THis does not mean other countries have not committed atrocities.

[u/BerlinJohn1985 → u/TailorBird69]

Still not sure what the Reparation payments have to do with proving the uniqueness of Israel's genocide. You know the USSR received reparations from Germany? The same USSR that genocided millions of Ukranians ten years before.