r/JewsOfConscience Oct 28 '24

Discussion Rising Antisemitism

I have witnessed so much antisemitism everytime I go online it's starting to become worrying. I see non Jewish leftists say that antisemitism isn't a real problem for Jews in America, usually being boiled down to "most Jews are white, rich, and have never experienced antisemitic violence physically". Yet antisemitism is rising and is a real problem that we should still consider in this time of jewish identity being weaponized and the jewish supremacy that is enacted in Occupied Palestine. Stating "most jews are white" seems harmful and also just false. Also Jews have always been hesitant to be apart of surveys so it's hard to find legitimate info on these things. Am I alone in this?

EDIT: I am not talking about any specific statistics or surveys. This is based on what I've personally seen scrolling on social media. I understand/agree there isn't a clear way to see that based on largely pro zionist orgs. EDIT PT 2: I am not saying that Pro Palestinian sentiment is antisemitism. I am talking about LEGITIMATE antisemitism. This is not a post talking about false accusations of antisemitism based in Zionism.

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u/Elegant-Astronaut636 Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24

Antisemitism is centered around Jews but Israelis are made to believe they are superior to Arabs (racist schooling). Antisemitism is projection based on how Israelis have been brought up to feel towards Arab people. That said people are upset with Israel not Jews (or wrongfully so). Bad things have been done recently in the name of Jews (by design) but it’s just to escalate violence and justify the unjustifiable. If you are a Jew and you are upset you are facing an ism then you are bearing the brunt of a teaching opportunity and you can say you do not agree with Zionist ideologies and are being made to be a scapegoat of escalation. Zionism is very similar to nazism.

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u/acacia_tree Reform Ashkie Diasporist Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24

Antisemitism is a term coined by proto-Nazi German journalist Friedrich Wilhelm Adolph Marr in 1881 (pre-Zionism) to describe Judenhass or Jew-hatred and make it sound scientific. At this time in history racists were obsessed with trying to scientifically justify their racist beliefs. He wrote about how Jews were an inferior race that were a threat to civilization. Today, this term has been completely distorted and weaponized to delegitimize pro-Palestine advocacy and shield the state of “Israel” for its atrocities, but actual antisemitism is still a very real phenomenon and a cornerstone of white supremacy and Nazi ideology.

I agree with you that anti-Zionist Jewish people do have a special responsibility and burden to educate about Zionism and dezionize Jewish people and institutions because of how Zionism is Jewish supremacism and because of how Zionists are commiting genocide in the name of Judaism. We need to hold ourselves accountable for the violence of our community. But that doesn’t negate the existence of actual antisemitism, as I defined it above in its original meaning. Which by the way I argue that anti-Zionist Jews are more vulnerable to antisemitism because we’re victims of it by both Zionist Jews and Neo-Nazis/white supremacists.

Just a few weeks ago Neo-Nazis were spreading a conspiracy theory on Twitter that Jewish FEMA administrators were misusing government money to send to Haitian immigrants, which is Great Replacement theory. Six years ago Jews were massacred in the US because the shooter believed in Great Replacement Theory. Antisemitism does exist outside of the context of Zionism.

Also I like to argue that the ideology of Zionism is also inherently antisemitic because of Christian Zionists wanting to kill or convert us, because of how Zionism destroys and denigrates Jewish diaspora culture, because of how Yemenite Jews were forcibly moved to occupied Palestine in a joint US-“Israel” operation in which many died and had their babies stolen by the israeli state, and because of how Palestinian Jews were murdered and expelled during the Nakba by European Zionists.

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u/TendieRetard Non-Jewish Ally Oct 29 '24

I thought it was coined by a Jewish historian of semitic studies in defense of Arab-semitic peoples corresponding w/another semitic historian who saw said Arabs as inferior. Then the nazis appropriated the term to refer to Jews?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Etymology