r/JewsOfConscience Oct 23 '24

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

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u/Travelisty Non-denominational Oct 23 '24

Accepting that genocide is a violation of human rights, and that one of two parties will win the US election, how can one be pro-human rights and considering allowing tyrant trump to win?

Sure the democratic candidate sucks for POTUS but one candidate did institute a Muslim ban, move and embassy to Jerusalem and is also a favorite of Netyanhu to win the election?

I understand my question is full of basis but I really don’t see how one can choose to abstain from this election without being a schmuck.

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u/soonerfreak Jewish Anti-Zionist Oct 24 '24

Harris is aiding a genocide and she has stated zero plans that would help the people of Texas regarding abortion and LGBT rights. Like what's she doing on day 1 if they get 51 seats in the senate and 218 in the House? Can't put abortion back into law as long as SCOTUS is 6-3. She could call on stacking the Court, she could call for uncapping the House, she could call on ending the filibuster for everything. Right now the best we will get is some abortion law they take forever to pass so the legal challenge lasts just long enough that abortion is on the ballot again in 2028. I'll vote Democrat on the rest of the ballot to flip Congress and do what I can in Texas but I will not vote for a person who would hang at Nuremberg and has zero plans to make America better domestically.

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u/Pitiful_Meringue_57 Jewish Oct 24 '24

I don’t think u fully understand the SCOTUS decision. A democratic majority absolutely could make a national right to abortion. The case just said that the court didn’t have a right to force all states to allow abortion, but it didn’t say that the legislature doesn’t have a right to.

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u/soonerfreak Jewish Anti-Zionist Oct 24 '24

All you have to do is look at the gay wedding website case and the praying football coach case to see SCOTUS doesn't care about how it gets to their opinion now. Neither case had legitimate standing, the website owner had never received a single order and the coach simply had his contract not renewed but they took both cases and handed down bullshit rulings. They will toss out abortion the exact same way, the 6 conservatives on the Court will rule how they please. Also if you take their logic on over turning Roe and treat it as legitimate and follow through, multiple other civil rights cases like interracial marriage are at risk.

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u/Pitiful_Meringue_57 Jewish Oct 24 '24

i don’t treat it as legitimate lol it’s bs. But the scope of the ruling isn’t abt what the legislature is allowed to do meaning that the dodds decision doesn’t stop a right to a abortion law from getting passed. With a dem president and a dem congress they have every opportunity to pass it. If the courts wanted to throw it out it would be an entirely different case

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u/soonerfreak Jewish Anti-Zionist Oct 24 '24

Well yeah they can pass one, but it won't stay on the books longer than it takes to get to SCOTUS. Stacking the Court and passing a law must happen together.

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u/Pitiful_Meringue_57 Jewish Oct 24 '24

I don’t think we should necessarily expect a scotus ruling that abortion is murder just yet. I agree that we need to stack the court but for other reasons. I think it would be ok to pass a law and see what happens tbh

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u/soonerfreak Jewish Anti-Zionist Oct 24 '24

They won't call it murder, they will pick somewhere in the Constitution that making abortion legal is a power belonging to the states. State Supreme Courts have a lot of partisan morons, SCOTUS only has two, the other 4 are smart enough to avoid the murder card for now.