r/JewsOfConscience • u/AutoModerator • Oct 23 '24

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

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u/Travelisty Non-denominational Oct 23 '24

Accepting that genocide is a violation of human rights, and that one of two parties will win the US election, how can one be pro-human rights and considering allowing tyrant trump to win?

Sure the democratic candidate sucks for POTUS but one candidate did institute a Muslim ban, move and embassy to Jerusalem and is also a favorite of Netyanhu to win the election?

I understand my question is full of basis but I really don’t see how one can choose to abstain from this election without being a schmuck.

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u/JZcomedy Jewish Oct 23 '24

Also noteworthy that Trump would let Netanyahu annex the West Bank. The idea that Kamala is just as bad is absurd. It disheartens me to see that sentiment so widespread here

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u/soonerfreak Jewish Anti-Zionist Oct 24 '24

Harris has shown absolutely zero inclination she will stop the annexation of West Bank. It's already happening, they control 60% of the West Bank and take more land and destroy more Palestinian property every year. The only difference between the two parties on Israel/Palestine is how openly they support what's happening.

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u/Thisisme8719 Arab Jew Oct 24 '24

Plus, I don't see the big deal in Israel formally annexing any part of the West Bank. It's already annexed for all but formal ways. Settlers are treated as civilians like any other Israeli, homes are demolished for whichever reason, people get displaced under different pretexts, even Area A is subject to Israeli orders. Would it make the Palestinians in the West Bank worse off? It's not like there aren't people being evicted or pushed out because of the settler-scum, pogroms happen periodically with the police doing nothing to protect them, and the Israeli authorities obstruct their civic engagement. It wouldn't legalize the settlements or even the occupation itself. East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights are still not considered parts of Israel by the international community, and the ICJ even included East Jerusalem in the territories that Israel has to get the fuck out of as soon as possible (along with the rest of Occupied Palestine).

I'm not claiming Trump wouldn't be worse than Harris on the Israel-Palestine issue. But the threat of annexation is meaningless. It's mildly provocative at best, but not as horrendous as the Abraham Accords (which the Democrats lauded while Trump was still in office and wanted to advance under Biden)