r/JewsOfConscience • u/AutoModerator • Oct 16 '24

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday! Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

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u/myownpersonallab Jewish Anti-Zionist Oct 16 '24

Fellow Jews, how do you fortify your soul against seeing actual antisemitism in Palestine liberation spaces? I keep seeing the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and claims of being devil worshippers and it has only gotten worse this month. I have been called a Zionist shill for pointing it out. The argument that we don't want fascist white supremacist arguments in our liberation spaces is getting less and less effective. :( I am always met with.... well this is nothing compared to what Palestinians are going through.

And it's true. It's not.

I will stay involved no matter what. Palestine will be free in our lifetimes and I will not stand by. But generations of trauma in my blood is wearing away at my armor at the moment.

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u/Cornexclamationpoint Ashkenazi Oct 16 '24

I've almost entirely abandoned r/badhasbara because of this.  As a disclaimer, the vast majority of the posts there are fine, but every once in a while there will be one or two that are fairly antisemitic that get a score of up-votes.  Jews are European larpers, Zionists control the US government, excessive sarcastic usages of "that's antisemitic," stuff like that.  It's 100% an echo chamber and any push back gets you down voted.  That's the great thing about big tent ideologies.  If you find one group that doesn't suit you, you're perfectly able to leave and find one that you fit in much better.  For Jews, this sub is a thousand times more accepting and culturally/religiously relevant.

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u/Saul_al-Rakoun Conservadox & Marxist Oct 20 '24

To be fair, there's a 1975 Memorandum of Understanding between Gerald Ford and Isaac Rabin that gives Israel veto powers over US diplomatic initiatives. I wish I were making this up.

Since you yourself brought up Bad Hasbara, I will simply say "Octopus Suit".

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u/Cornexclamationpoint Ashkenazi Oct 20 '24

The only type of memorandums like this that I have seen refer specifically to peace accords between Israel and Egypt and Syria, where Henry Kissinger assured that the US would be on Israel's side. Considering that Egypt and Syria were full-blown members of the Soviet sphere of influence, it doesn't seem like they would have needed a lot of coaxing to take this stance. If there is some other agreement that I missed, I'd appreciate a bit more info to do some googling.