r/JewsOfConscience • u/PreparationOk1450 Jewish Anti-Zionist • Jul 22 '24

Discussion Dementia is Disqualifying, but Not Genocide

It's really disturbing to me that dementia is disqualifying for Joe Biden, but him doing a genocide is not. That shows how Palestinians are viewed in America by the political class.

If only Hitler had dementia, maybe we could've gotten rid of him sooner, since the Holocaust wouldn't have been a problem for him with his domestic constituency.

What do others think?

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u/sar662 Jewish Jul 22 '24

I don't think this is a matter of how the US electorate or the US government views the Palestinian people. I think this is a reflection of how both the US government and the job of the president are multifaceted.

I'll support this by pointing out that under Reagan the United States was giving financial aid to Iraq even though the Iraq Iran war included some horrible atrocities. Similarly we have aid given to Columbia and Indonesia during the Clinton years and President Obama's government giving aid to both Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

More than that, Biden pushed the other direction. Announced a review of arms sales to Saudi Arabia in January 2021 and suspended some arms sales related to the Yemen conflict.
Imposed visa restrictions on Saudis involved in threatening dissidents.
Withheld $130 million in military aid to Egypt in 2021 due to human rights concerns and made future Egyptian aid conditioned on specific human rights improvements.

I'm not saying he was perfect but in general he made human rights into a foreign policy factor in a way that previous govts hadn't.

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u/PreparationOk1450 Jewish Anti-Zionist Jul 22 '24

The Yemen thing was just reframing a similar policy. The US was still providing "defensive weapons" and intelligence on targets. He gets no credit for that.

Biden resumed aid to Egypt, because they are willing to be Israel's bff. They team up to oppress the people of Gaza together.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/14/us/politics/egypt-biden-military-aid.html

A man doing genocide and blowing away babies daily isn't my definition of making human rights a factor in foreign policy. I am surprised.

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u/sar662 Jewish Jul 22 '24

I guess we will have to disagree about how to view Biden's foreign policy. Luckily, at this point it's a non-issue because he's not running for reelection. Who are you hoping gets the DNC nomination?

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u/PreparationOk1450 Jewish Anti-Zionist Jul 22 '24

I can't think of one person I would accept and vote for. The whole party is either overtly for this genocide or meekly for a ceasefire but also backed Biden, the one doing the genocide. Is there a single potential anti-genocide candidate? Someone willing to support BDS and one state?

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u/sar662 Jewish Jul 22 '24

I don't know but my calculus is that I'm voting against Trump because under Trump or Vance, things will only be worse than they've been.

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u/AnarchoHystericism Reform Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24

So how would you suggest Americans vote in the upcoming election, if not for the democrat candidate? No single candidate can control long term American foreign policy to the degree you are asking. Is harm reduction not a valid strategy?