r/JewsOfConscience Jew of Color Jun 29 '24

Activism NYC Dyke March Drama

The NYC Dyke March is being boycotted by many other organizations including Act Up NYC for putting out and subsequently deleting this statement. Thoughts?

Imma be real I don't really think this statement is bad at all, but I understand that others have read it as "all lives matter"-ing the genocide in Gaza. Would love to hear more takes.

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u/Specialist-Gur Ashkenazi Jun 29 '24

I strongly disagree that this is bad… really

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u/PossibleDeer4613 Jun 30 '24

Same.

According to the whitehouse.gov: The United States has recently experienced an alarming increase in antisemitic incidents, among other acts of hatred. American Jews account for 2.4% of the U.S. population, but they are the victims of 63% of reported religiously motivated hate crimes, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

Why are jews on this thread acting like its anti-palestine to acknowledge antisemitism.

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u/farbissina_punim Jewish Jun 30 '24

I don't see Jewish people in this thread saying that at all.

Things that are antisemitic: scores of Costco khaki-ed neo-Naz*s chanting "Jews will not replace us"; people being gunned down in synagogues in Pennsylvania; talking publicly about your "Jew lawyer"; RFK, Jr. loudly and proudly claiming that Jewish people are immune to Covid-19, slamming a Jewish college professor to the ground who is just trying to protect her students at a pro-Palestine rally.

Things that aren't antisemitic: Anti-Israel sentiments, Palestinian people existing, and calling what's happening in Palestine a genocide.

Conservatives, Republicans and many Democrats only let us talk about antisemitism when it's at the expense of Palestinian people. Otherwise, we're not a priority. They don't really care about us otherwise.

We can't scream about October 7th every time someone mentions thousands of dead Palestinian people. We need to curb that impulse. When someone tells me their mom has been diagnosed with cancer, it's not my moment to interrupt and yell, "WELL MY MOM DIED OF CANCER!" Palestinian grief is not an invitation to detour the conversation into discussions about October 7th and the Holocaust.

Jewish people centering themselves in these conversations is repulsive and it doesn't endear us to anyone.

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u/PossibleDeer4613 Jun 30 '24 edited Jun 30 '24

I don’t disagree with anything you are saying. There is also a huge swath of rhetoric from nonjewish leftists that is getting veeeery scary. And I don’t think its okay to say well I am a jew who opposes genocide so therefore I’m going to ignore antisemitism against bad jews because its not coming at me. We’ve seen that before. Also many non- jews emboldened that they can never be antisemitic because jews have said criticizing Israel isnt antisemitic and be against genocide isnt antisemitic and they are marching alongside jewish friends and therefore can say whatever, WHATEVER, with impunity. Asserting jews control the media and politics is still antisemitic. I have seen so many people straight up holocaust deny or say everyone in israel should be killed, just say horrific things. The leftist comment threads and the super jew hating conspiracy theory threads are becoming the same thread. And it IS scary and I think there needs to be more room for talking about it without calling it centering ourselves. Especially on a subreddit for jews. The stakes for a mass movement towards our dehumanization are high. And if I have to prove my goodness to fellow antizionist jews as I seem to need to all non-jews to talk about antisemitism… where are we?