r/JewsOfConscience • u/Jche98 Jewish Anti-Zionist • May 07 '24

Discussion Feeling tokenised on this sub

I've been getting the impression lately that so much of this sub is becoming posts like "as jews of conscience, what do you think of X?" or "as real jews who believe in real judaism, what do you think of Y?" These questions are from non-jews. I appreciate non-jewish allies taking part in this sub but lately it's feeling that it's just people trying to paint us as "the good jews". This sub is about being jewish and anti-Zionist and the struggles that come with that. It's not a sub for us to parade around claiming to be the "true jews" or for people to parade us around like that. We are jewish and we oppose Zionism but the Zionist jews are also jewish. We're no less or more jewish than they are. And we're not here to justify judaism in the face of Zionism. There are a million (very important) subs where there is general discussion about Palestine and the genocide in Gaza. But I feel like this sub should be something for us.

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u/noam99 May 07 '24 edited May 07 '24

I'd like to think that I speak for a lot of the Jews here when I say that your post really frustrates me. There's a genocide going on and this issue is completely pedantic. I've been seeing far too many of these lately. Just my two cents.

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u/ThePaintedOgre Jewish May 07 '24

Nope. You don’t speak for all of us. This comment is reductive as fuck. There are still a lot of other issues for us to tackle and work on. The feeling of being tokenized and the much encountered “good Jew” test is just as valid to be discussed in this space.

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u/noam99 May 07 '24

I may not speak for all but I know I speak for some as I've recently seen a post here sharing the same grievance. This type of sentiment centres Jews as the victims of this conflict in a way that's completely inappropriate.

Also bad person=bad jew

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u/[deleted] May 08 '24

I'm pretty confident that the up tick in non jew activity in this server directly correlates with the Gazan genocide. A lot of people are seeing and ingesting very anti semitic language and imagery and are coming to this server to unlearn or better navigate what anti semitism mean. Even if it can be annoying, at this moment it is necessary. The alternative would be having fewer allies that will check anti semitism on your behalf.

I speak for myself when I say I absolutely was falling into a lot of anti semitic beliefs and absolutely made some stupid posts in this server. But I have learned, grown and am actively working to be a good ally.