Seen it all now

[u/Welcomefriend2023]

On another discussion on social media, I was accused by a zionist of antisemitism bc I use Yiddish words in my speech.

As a senior who was raised speaking Yiddish as a 2nd language by my bubbe and zayde, both of whom immigrated from Tsarist Russia in the early 1900s, I find it bizarre to be accused of "using antisemitic tropes" bc I use Yiddish in my speech!

[u/Abdullah_super]

I’m not Jewish. But in the past 6 month I realized you can’t keep victimizing yourself and throughout historical events and expect the people to behave normally.

The current situation has showed so many instances were Zionists are deliberately and embarrassingly trying to fake a situation were they were hurt or felt offended by stuff as simple as seeing the Palestinian flag or listening to specific words like the chants that was banned.

Its almost as if the entire community had agreed on one thing which is to use victimazation as a weapon to gain support.

Multiple videos are showing people faking being hit by a Palestinian flag, and tons of other videos showing pro Israeli people provoking pro Palestinian protesters to attack them.

I’d say the must be something culturally generating this behaviour and don’t get me wrong, I’m just analyzing what I’m seeing, and I don’t think this events are coordinated or that those people are taking orders to behave this way.

Thats why I think it’s something cultural. What is unique about zionism that make its individuals behave like that. It’s definitely not normal.

[u/Welcomefriend2023 → u/Abdullah_super]

I was raised zionist in the 60s and stayed one reluctantly until last October (I say "reluctantly" because over the decades I had been learning of crimes committed by the zionist govt against other Jews, like the Yemenite Jewish child scandal of the 50s).

But one thing I have noticed: the zionists seem to have become much more hardened over the decades. In the 70s most zionists were establishment; the JDL were the crazy ones and they were shunned by establishment Jews.

Did the internet do this to them? I just don't know.

[u/boyyhowdy → u/Welcomefriend2023]

Indigenous movements and movements for the liberation of people of color over the past several decades have made it much less acceptable in the West to kill and steal whatever you want from lesser, browner people. Obviously, this spells trouble for Zionism. So, Zionists dig in and become more hardline.

[u/meatbeater558 → u/boyyhowdy]

They also co-opt the language of these movements as well

[u/Roy4Pris → u/boyyhowdy]

This. I am a 50-something New Zealander of European descent. Straight up murder, land theft etc happened but not on the scale of the Americas, Australia etc. Nowadays the vast majority accepts the terrible harms done to Māori, the effects of which are still painfully evident today. Reparations are an ongoing process. Anyway, my point is that there has been an enormous shift in societal attitudes in my lifetime. Around the world, we accept the brutality and injustice of our ancestors. That our privileges came at the expense others. Zionists are not prepared to do the same, and use antisemitism as a cudgel against any criticism or encouragement to catch up with the Western world’s acceptance of our historic crimes.