r/FreeLuigi • u/yowhatupmom • 5d ago
Case Updates
This is a working document and will be edited/added to as needed and is still a work in progress. If you have any additions, corrections, or further sources, please comment below.
LM's next court appearance for his NY State Case will be February 21, 2025 (source)
LM's next court appearance for his Federal Case (preliminary hearing) will be January 18, 2025 note: this is a placeholder until the DOJ gets a grand jury indictment. It will likely not occur on this date. The next step is for him to make a plea to his charged.
LM's next scheduled appearance for his PA State Case is December 30, 2024, but he is in NY at MDC Brooklyn so this will likely occur over zoom. This appearance is to determine if he is granted bail on the charges in PA, but as he is being held on Federal charges in a Federal facility, it doesn't really matter.
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12/28/24: (Federal Case) LM has been charged by the DOJ but has not been officially indicted by a grand jury. The next Federal court appearance date will be updated when they secure the indictment.
12/23/24: (NY State Case) LM has pleaded not guilty to 11 charges in New York - video of his plea (at 1:12) -
- One count of Murder in the first degree in furtherance of terrorism
- Two counts of Murder in the second degree (one as an act of terrorism)
- Two counts of Criminal Possession of a weapon in the second degree
- Four counts of Criminal Possession of a weapon in the third degree
- One count of Criminal Possession of a weapon in the fourth degree
- One count of Criminal Possession of a forged instrument in the second degree (source for charges)
Megathread for NY Arraignment Discussion
12/23/24: (NY State Case) "In court, Mangione's attorney Karen Friedman Agnifilo requested immediate, expedited discovery in the case, which the judge agreed with. Prosecutors said the amount of discovery material is voluminous, including thousands of hour of surveillance video." (source)
12/19/24: (Federal Case) The DOJ has charged LM with 4 charges. (source for charges) and link to federal complaint
- One count of Using a firearm to commit murder
- One count of Interstate stalking resulting in death
- One count of Stalking through use of interstate facilities resulting in death
- One count of Discharging a firearm that was equipped with a silencer in furtherance of a crime of violence
12/17/24: The Manhattan District Attorney announces new charges against LM. See above where he pleaded not guilty.
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u/MentalAnnual5577 4d ago
First, I believe the 1290 Sixth Avenue Starbucks address (at 52d Street) is incorrect, although it’s probably based on the same ABC News article I originally relied upon. Other news articles say 1380 Sixth Avenue (at 56th Street). If you check the addresses on Google StreetView, you’ll see images dated 2024 that show a bank at the 1290 address and a Starbucks at the 1380 address. It makes a difference, because if you posit that the same suspect emerged from the 57th Street subway stop (at Sixth) at 6:15am, then was seen at Starbucks at either 6:17am or 6:19am (I’ve seen different articles stating different times) on 52d Street, then was seen again going west on 55th Street and then again going west on 54th Street, he’s wandering around in illogical-seeming circles and moving too fast (teleporting, in fact), and it doesn’t make much sense. Which could raise further questions about whether there was more than one “suspect” seen on the videos. But if the Starbucks was at 56th, one “suspect” may be walking straight downtown, with just a couple of jogs left and right.
Also, for the timeline, especially just before and after the shooting, it would be helpful to pinpoint the cross streets, and even landmarks between cross streets, because the movements as they’re reporting them right now don’t seem to make sense.
For example, “the suspect” is seen walking west on 55th at 6:17am/6:19am (discarding trash, allegedly the bottle and granola bar wrapper(s) with LM’s fingerprints and maybe DNA) and then again walking west on 54th past a parking lot at 6:29am/6:30am (with a phone to his ear). Why is he walking west both times, on two different streets? Just to keep moving, because it looks weird to just stand around (“loitering”) on a Manhattan street? Maybe, but I’d like to know if he was between 5th and 6th, or 6th and 7th (or some other avenue entirely), to better understand it. Manhattan doesn’t have a lot of parking lots (as opposed to parking garages, of which there are a ton), so I’m pretty sure that at 6:29/6:30 “the suspect” was on 54th between 6th and 7th next to a small parking lot that’s visible there. Right between what I believe was BT’s hotel and the Hilton, and just a half block away from the latter, so allegedly poised to strike — but a full 15m before the shooting. I’d like to confirm that. I think there’s at least one YouTube that shows the cross streets and some landmarks, like the parking lot.
Ultimately, I’d like to be able to draw an animated map showing the movements that are allegedly documented on video, indicating the gaps between sightings, and also indicating whether one can draw a dotted line to join each sighting to the next, or whether it’s impossible to do that within the stated timeframes. I’m working on my own timeline because I’ve found (with a couple of true crime cases I’ve followed) it’s essential for understanding and evaluating the evidence. I’d be happy to share anything that might help, but I’m usually slower than others on this sort of thing lol.