r/FreeLuigi 4d ago

Case Updates

This is a working document and will be edited/added to as needed and is still a work in progress. If you have any additions, corrections, or further sources, please comment below.

LM's next court appearance for his state case will be February 21, 2025 (source)

LM's next court appearance for his federal case (preliminary hearing) will be January 18, 2025 (source, but looking for another one)

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12/23/24: (NY State Case) LM has pleaded not guilty to 11 charges in New York - video of his plea (at 1:12) -

  • One count of Murder in the first degree in furtherance of terrorism
  • Two counts of Murder in the second degree (one as an act of terrorism)
  • Two counts of Criminal Possession of a weapon in the second degree
  • Four counts of Criminal Possession of a weapon in the third degree
  • One count of Criminal Possession of a weapon in the fourth degree
  • One count of Criminal Possession of a forged instrument in the second degree (source for charges)

Megathread for NY Arraignment Discussion

12/23/24: (NY State Case) "In court, Mangione's attorney Karen Friedman Agnifilo requested immediate, expedited discovery in the case, which the judge agreed with. Prosecutors said the amount of discovery material is voluminous, including thousands of hour of surveillance video." (source)

12/19/24: (Federal Case) The DOJ has charged LM with 4 charges. (source for charges) and link to federal complaint

  • One count of Using a firearm to commit murder
  • One count of Interstate stalking resulting in death
  • One count of Stalking through use of interstate facilities resulting in death
  • One count of Discharging a firearm that was equipped with a silencer in furtherance of a crime of violence

12/17/24: The Manhattan District Attorney announces new charges against LM. See above where he pleaded not guilty.

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Prior to the Arrest of LM

Full timeline found here

11/18/24: LM's mother filed a missing person's report in San Francisco (source)

11/24/24: The suspect entered NYC by bus at 9:00PM that originated from Atlanta, but it is not known if the suspect boarded the bus there

11/30/24: The suspect checked into the HI New York City Hostel on the Upper West Side

12/4/24

  • At 5:34AM, the suspect left the HI New York City Hostel and rode an e-bike to Midtown.
  • At 6:15AM, the suspect bought a water bottle and granola bars at Starbucks at 1290 Sixth Avenue in Midtown. (Note: The fastest bike route available between these two destinations is 3.4 miles at 19 minutes)
  • At 6:19AM, CCTV captures what appears to be the suspect walking west on 55th Street
  • At 6:29AM, CCTV captures the suspect walking on West 54th Street (across the street from the New York Hilton Midtown)
  • From 6:38AM to 6:44AM, the suspect stood against a wall on the north side of West 54th Street across the street from the New York Hilton Midtown
  • At 6:44AM, the suspect committed the crime against Thompson. A phone was recovered in the alley close to the crime scene.
  • After the crime, the suspect fled north on a bike and rode into Central Park. The suspect exited Central Park at 77th Street and Central Park West. At 86th Street and Columbus Avenue, the suspect left the bike and took a taxi to the Port Authority bus facility at 178th Street by the George Washington Bridge. There is no imagery of the suspect getting onto a bus at this station.
  • The suspect left the George Washington Bridge bus station and went to the Penn Station and left NYC by train to Philadelphia.

12/8/24: FBI and NYPD spoke to LM's mother (source) based on a tip from police in San Francisco

12/9/24: LM is identified and taken into custody in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Prior to his arrest, LM was on a Greyhound bus traveling through Altoona.

12/13/24: Karen Friedman Agnifilo is retained to represent LM (source)

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u/109876880 4d ago

“I do not believe that the government has met its burden of proof.” Just one juror saying this…

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u/Sad_Masterpiece7914 4d ago

Prosecutors said the amount of discovery material is voluminous, including thousands of hours of surveillance video.

Why does it sound like they are trying to bury his attorneys in a pile of nonsense to keep them busy while they look for legitimate evidence?

The Complaint was so thin and besides the items the PA police say they found on him, the FBI special agent said their charges are based on the photos of the masked shooter and photos of L in custody. Like they are really trying to pin this whole case on blurry video footage of a masked person and the low-quality photos of the shooter at the hostel.

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u/MentalAnnual5577 4d ago

First, I believe the 1290 Sixth Avenue Starbucks address (at 52d Street) is incorrect, although it’s probably based on the same ABC News article I originally relied upon. Other news articles say 1380 Sixth Avenue (at 56th Street). If you check the addresses on Google StreetView, you’ll see images dated 2024 that show a bank at the 1290 address and a Starbucks at the 1380 address. It makes a difference, because if you posit that the same suspect emerged from the 57th Street subway stop (at Sixth) at 6:15am, then was seen at Starbucks at either 6:17am or 6:19am (I’ve seen different articles stating different times) on 52d Street, then was seen again going west on 55th Street and then again going west on 54th Street, he’s wandering around in illogical-seeming circles and moving too fast (teleporting, in fact), and it doesn’t make much sense. Which could raise further questions about whether there was more than one “suspect” seen on the videos. But if the Starbucks was at 56th, one “suspect” may be walking straight downtown, with just a couple of jogs left and right.

Also, for the timeline, especially just before and after the shooting, it would be helpful to pinpoint the cross streets, and even landmarks between cross streets, because the movements as they’re reporting them right now don’t seem to make sense.

For example, “the suspect” is seen walking west on 55th at 6:17am/6:19am (discarding trash, allegedly the bottle and granola bar wrapper(s) with LM’s fingerprints and maybe DNA) and then again walking west on 54th past a parking lot at 6:29am/6:30am (with a phone to his ear). Why is he walking west both times, on two different streets? Just to keep moving, because it looks weird to just stand around (“loitering”) on a Manhattan street? Maybe, but I’d like to know if he was between 5th and 6th, or 6th and 7th (or some other avenue entirely), to better understand it. Manhattan doesn’t have a lot of parking lots (as opposed to parking garages, of which there are a ton), so I’m pretty sure that at 6:29/6:30 “the suspect” was on 54th between 6th and 7th next to a small parking lot that’s visible there. Right between what I believe was BT’s hotel and the Hilton, and just a half block away from the latter, so allegedly poised to strike — but a full 15m before the shooting. I’d like to confirm that. I think there’s at least one YouTube that shows the cross streets and some landmarks, like the parking lot.

Ultimately, I’d like to be able to draw an animated map showing the movements that are allegedly documented on video, indicating the gaps between sightings, and also indicating whether one can draw a dotted line to join each sighting to the next, or whether it’s impossible to do that within the stated timeframes. I’m working on my own timeline because I’ve found (with a couple of true crime cases I’ve followed) it’s essential for understanding and evaluating the evidence. I’d be happy to share anything that might help, but I’m usually slower than others on this sort of thing lol.

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u/phantomak 3d ago

Rad thanks for the dedication and commitment to this!

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u/picasso_baby 6h ago

I think we can confirm it cos one Starbucks is recently renovated (56th) and the other (52nd) isn’t, so we can ID the location based on the background.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

Thanks! Do we know if these hearings are open to the public?

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u/Frequent-Disaster300 3d ago

State should be, federal is most definitely not

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u/Parisian-Tide 1d ago

Federal hearings are open to the public. There’s just no cameras inside.

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