r/BoomersBeingFools • u/DappyHayes • 18d ago

Disillusioned NYC Leaders Feel the Social Contract Shattered After Jordan Neely's Chokehold Death by Daniel Penny, a Trained Marine Sargent

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u/RoosterontheSpectrum 17d ago

This has nothing to do with boomers. A marines incompetence of choke holds caused him to kill a mentally distressed man.

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u/jmmmke 17d ago

And typically, Boomers love lethal vigilante violence against minorities

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

Neely was an active threat to the other passengers, including many ethnic minorities. Daniel Penny is a hero but because of your Woke worldview everything is filtered through your "oppressor/oppressed" framework. People are treated not as individuals with equal intrinsic moral worth but as members of various identity groups whose worth depends on where they fall on the Woke hierarchy.

Your worldview really is despicable and antithetical to liberalism.

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u/conker123110 17d ago

Please define woke

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u/ChanceAd3606 17d ago

It's an ideology that forces every and all interactions and altercations to be viewed through the lens of race, nationality, or sexuality.

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u/conker123110 17d ago

I got a completely different definition from the person I was talking to. Where do you get yours?

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u/ChanceAd3606 17d ago

It's the definition in my own words. If you want the Webster dictionary definition:

aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

Not exactly the same as my definition, but pretty damn close.

My question is, how do you NOT know what woke means at this point? Do you live under a rock?

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u/conker123110 17d ago edited 17d ago

Not exactly the same as my definition, but pretty damn close.

No, that's wrong.

It's an ideology that forces every and all interactions and altercations to be viewed through the lens of race, nationality, or sexuality.

aware ofand actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

Being aware and attentive is very much different from being forced.

Also can I ask what merit your definition of a word is?

My question is, how do you NOT know what woke means at this point? Do you live under a rock?

It's called a prodding question, to get you to reveal the fact you apparently have your own definitions for words...

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

Woke is the inversion of every real and perceived hierarchy. The application of moral, legal and other standards and privileges depends on where a person or group falls in this hierarchy. White "cisgendered" Jewish males are of course the ultimate oppressors in Woke ideology.

Wokeness is a dialectical "third way" between fascism and Communism and thus has elements of fascism in that it blends state, corporate, and NGO power to achieve its aims. One more similarity is the justification of violence (see the Woke support for the BLM riots and insurrections, the Antifa violence, the Trump assassination attempts, and the murder of the United Healthcare CEO). Another similarity is of course the totalitarian nature of the ideology.

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u/conker123110 17d ago

Wokeness is a dialectical "third way" between fascism and Communism and thus has elements of fascism in that it blends state, corporate, and NGO power to achieve its aims.

Please elaborate further on this.

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

Nah, that's the definition. Chris Rufo, who grew up in a leftist family, wrote a very good book about this called "America's Cultural Revolution". You could also read that.

For daily reads I suggest your straight news from reputable straight news sources, but your opinion news needs to be entirely from those who understand that both sides are bad. Not all will explicitly say it all the time but an intelligent person can get the gist. This means you can get populist right-wing opinion-based news from Ben Shapiro, religious right opinion-based news from Rod Dreher, center-right opinion-based news from The Dispatch, opinion-based centrist news from The Free Press, center-left opinion-based news from Andrew Sullivan, and left liberal opinion-based news from someone along the lines of Glenn Greenwald. If you are like most redditors and are not a fan of reading then I guess you can watch Bill Maher's "Club Random" podcast or something.

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u/conker123110 17d ago

Nah, that's the definition.

Weird, because someone else is also arguing a completely different definition.

More so I want you to elaborate on on "Wokeness is a dialectical "third way" between fascism and Communism"

If you don't want to argue your point that's fine, in fact it proves my point all the better, but I really don't know where you got that diatribe from...

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

Read Chris Rufo's book. The roots of all of this are in various leftists from the 60s retreating to the institutions and, in a nod to Mao, embarking on a "long march through the institutions". Unrepentant terrorists, including some who later launched Barack Obama's political career, retreated to the universities and sought tenured positions. I'm not here to rewrite books. Educate yourself.

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u/conker123110 17d ago edited 17d ago

Read Chris Rufo's book.

I'm currently talking to you, please use the knowledge and supporting evidence that you have to argue your point.

If you want to quote or otherwise use the book for your argument feel free.

I'm not here to rewrite books. Educate yourself.

I'm simply asking you to give your reasoning, if you read and understood the book that you are so confident about then you should be able to argue in its favor.

replying and blocking me also proves my point, thanks. You failed miserably at defending your fake definition so now you're throwing a fit and telling me to "go do your own research!"

In reality you likely haven't even read the book if you can't even quote it once in support of your point. Sad!

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

I'm currently talking to you, please use the knowledge and supporting evidence that you have to argue your point.

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I'm simply asking you to give your reasoning, if you read and understood the book that you are so confident about then you should be able to argue in its favor.

I already did, troll.

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u/AnimationAtNight 17d ago

Define "real heirarchy"