r/BoomersBeingFools • u/DappyHayes • 18d ago

Disillusioned NYC Leaders Feel the Social Contract Shattered After Jordan Neely's Chokehold Death by Daniel Penny, a Trained Marine Sargent

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u/RoosterontheSpectrum 17d ago

This has nothing to do with boomers. A marines incompetence of choke holds caused him to kill a mentally distressed man.

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u/jmmmke 17d ago

And typically, Boomers love lethal vigilante violence against minorities

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

Neely was an active threat to the other passengers, including many ethnic minorities. Daniel Penny is a hero but because of your Woke worldview everything is filtered through your "oppressor/oppressed" framework. People are treated not as individuals with equal intrinsic moral worth but as members of various identity groups whose worth depends on where they fall on the Woke hierarchy.

Your worldview really is despicable and antithetical to liberalism.

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u/BewareOfBee 17d ago

Woke is something Fox made up to scare you. Grow up dude.

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u/doctorsnowohno 17d ago

Their attempts at dialogue are so fucking creepy. Speaking on others' worldviews while inhaling right-wing bullshit. I'm sure 'liberalism' will work out great for him.

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u/jmmmke 17d ago

All I did was point out that vigilante justice is something that boomers love and this dope writes a buzzword opinion piece for Breitbart

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u/ChanceAd3606 17d ago

What's your point though? Everyone loves vigilante justice.

Just look at all the praise the guy who murdered the Health Insurance CEO is getting. Those are young people praising him, not the elderly.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 Zoomer 3d ago edited 3d ago

Many young people don't praise him actually. It's mainly gen x and millennials who do. We both don't condone but don't condemn what Neely did either. However, social media makes it look differently but only maybe 50% of us support Mangione.

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u/jmmmke 17d ago

My point is thematically for this Reddit, BLM crackpots crying over this case is not representative of boomers

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

Daniel Penny wasn't trying to kill Jordan Neely. This wasn't a vigilante trying to kill or punish someone for their crimes (real or imagined), it was a Good Samaritan and a few helpers working together to neutralize a very real threat until the police could take over. My point is that the creeps here are upset that Penny wasn't convicted not because Penny is guilty (he is innocent of any and all crimes and should be commended for his actions) but because of where he and the guy who died fall on the "Woke" hierarchy.

Things will not get better if people like you refuse to understand what's going on.

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u/Ecstatic-Square2158 16d ago

So then what term are people allowed to use for left identity politics? Or are you just trying to gaslight him?

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u/BewareOfBee 16d ago

Is that what it means to you? Seems to just mean generally "The shit I hate".

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u/Ecstatic-Square2158 16d ago

That’s what it means to everyone. That’s the definition of the word.

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u/BewareOfBee 16d ago

So country music is woke now?

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u/Ecstatic-Square2158 16d ago

No? What the fuck are you talking about?

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u/BewareOfBee 16d ago

Honestly aren't yall bored yet? Like who gives a shit anymore.

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u/Ecstatic-Square2158 16d ago

Hell no I’m not bored. I can see why this wouldn’t be fun for you though. The general direction of culture was very uncomfortable for me as a right winger for a long time. Things feel much better these days though. You can feel change in the air.

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

Educate yourself. Left liberals like Bari Weiss, Andrew Sullivan and Bill Maher understand that Woke is a thing. I don't watch Fox News.

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u/BewareOfBee 17d ago

No, educate me. Give me examples of what you belive woke to be. I don't know who Bill Mahr is.

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

Give me examples of what you belive woke to be.

https://old.reddit.com/r/BoomersBeingFools/comments/1hawu9b/disillusioned_nyc_leaders_feel_the_social/

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u/Unique-Charity-9564 17d ago

You dont even know what woke means. How ignorant.

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u/Careless_Yellow_3218 17d ago

The fact that you called Bill Maher, a right-leaning Libertarian on his best day, a liberal tells me you don’t really know what you’re talking about.

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u/Unique-Charity-9564 17d ago

Rofl Bill Maher? Seriously? Woke is something you made up you chicken shit.

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u/Ecstatic-Square2158 16d ago

What’s the point of this little gaslighting routine?

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u/Unique-Charity-9564 15d ago

You losers are hilarious. 

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u/Cool_Raccoon_5588 17d ago

No, woke is all the weird gay shit that’s been normalized.

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u/BewareOfBee 17d ago

What do you mean? Any examples?

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u/conker123110 17d ago

Please define woke

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u/ChanceAd3606 17d ago

It's an ideology that forces every and all interactions and altercations to be viewed through the lens of race, nationality, or sexuality.

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u/conker123110 17d ago

I got a completely different definition from the person I was talking to. Where do you get yours?

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u/ChanceAd3606 17d ago

It's the definition in my own words. If you want the Webster dictionary definition:

aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

Not exactly the same as my definition, but pretty damn close.

My question is, how do you NOT know what woke means at this point? Do you live under a rock?

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u/conker123110 17d ago edited 17d ago

Not exactly the same as my definition, but pretty damn close.

No, that's wrong.

It's an ideology that forces every and all interactions and altercations to be viewed through the lens of race, nationality, or sexuality.

aware ofand actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

Being aware and attentive is very much different from being forced.

Also can I ask what merit your definition of a word is?

My question is, how do you NOT know what woke means at this point? Do you live under a rock?

It's called a prodding question, to get you to reveal the fact you apparently have your own definitions for words...

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

Woke is the inversion of every real and perceived hierarchy. The application of moral, legal and other standards and privileges depends on where a person or group falls in this hierarchy. White "cisgendered" Jewish males are of course the ultimate oppressors in Woke ideology.

Wokeness is a dialectical "third way" between fascism and Communism and thus has elements of fascism in that it blends state, corporate, and NGO power to achieve its aims. One more similarity is the justification of violence (see the Woke support for the BLM riots and insurrections, the Antifa violence, the Trump assassination attempts, and the murder of the United Healthcare CEO). Another similarity is of course the totalitarian nature of the ideology.

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u/conker123110 17d ago

Wokeness is a dialectical "third way" between fascism and Communism and thus has elements of fascism in that it blends state, corporate, and NGO power to achieve its aims.

Please elaborate further on this.

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

Nah, that's the definition. Chris Rufo, who grew up in a leftist family, wrote a very good book about this called "America's Cultural Revolution". You could also read that.

For daily reads I suggest your straight news from reputable straight news sources, but your opinion news needs to be entirely from those who understand that both sides are bad. Not all will explicitly say it all the time but an intelligent person can get the gist. This means you can get populist right-wing opinion-based news from Ben Shapiro, religious right opinion-based news from Rod Dreher, center-right opinion-based news from The Dispatch, opinion-based centrist news from The Free Press, center-left opinion-based news from Andrew Sullivan, and left liberal opinion-based news from someone along the lines of Glenn Greenwald. If you are like most redditors and are not a fan of reading then I guess you can watch Bill Maher's "Club Random" podcast or something.

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u/conker123110 17d ago

Nah, that's the definition.

Weird, because someone else is also arguing a completely different definition.

More so I want you to elaborate on on "Wokeness is a dialectical "third way" between fascism and Communism"

If you don't want to argue your point that's fine, in fact it proves my point all the better, but I really don't know where you got that diatribe from...

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

Read Chris Rufo's book. The roots of all of this are in various leftists from the 60s retreating to the institutions and, in a nod to Mao, embarking on a "long march through the institutions". Unrepentant terrorists, including some who later launched Barack Obama's political career, retreated to the universities and sought tenured positions. I'm not here to rewrite books. Educate yourself.

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u/conker123110 17d ago edited 17d ago

Read Chris Rufo's book.

I'm currently talking to you, please use the knowledge and supporting evidence that you have to argue your point.

If you want to quote or otherwise use the book for your argument feel free.

I'm not here to rewrite books. Educate yourself.

I'm simply asking you to give your reasoning, if you read and understood the book that you are so confident about then you should be able to argue in its favor.

replying and blocking me also proves my point, thanks. You failed miserably at defending your fake definition so now you're throwing a fit and telling me to "go do your own research!"

In reality you likely haven't even read the book if you can't even quote it once in support of your point. Sad!

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u/Giant_Jackfruit 17d ago

I'm currently talking to you, please use the knowledge and supporting evidence that you have to argue your point.

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I'm simply asking you to give your reasoning, if you read and understood the book that you are so confident about then you should be able to argue in its favor.

I already did, troll.

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u/AnimationAtNight 17d ago

Define "real heirarchy"

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u/Unique-Charity-9564 17d ago

No one even wants to be a liberal dude

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u/Fresh-Wealth-8397 17d ago

Damn dawg where can I get some of what you're smoking? I love your total disconnect from reality vibe you got