r/AskMenAdvice • u/Complex_Memory_7320 • 1d ago
Patriarchy Hoax Opinion
So I have been reading that women were traditionally been opressed by men. Although to some context it is true. Whenever I think about it becomes hazy and I can't digest it. Like my ancestors and many more worked so hard all their lives so that we in present can have a better future, just to be called oppressors in modern times. Also for marraiges were women weren't treated fairly there were also men who got women like that. So it's basically comes down to like there are good people and bad people. Also now I see many countries that have baised laws have their birth rates below 2.1 . Breaking the family unit apart is the best way to break us apart in future. I guess many of us had a decent family to teach us things from both perspectives. I can't speak on this way more although I guess it would be mundane. I don't mean to come out as offensive to anyone just my thoughts and want to know about it from different perspectives.
Edit 1 :- Thank you everyone for sharing your perspective I'll try to look into each one. Also again a heartful thank you for letting me now the insights. Try to keep a unbiased view. Wish you a great time ahead. Edit 2 :- I'll be closing this thread after few days. Got much needed insight .
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u/CommunityDefiant4292 1d ago
It seems you have a genuine question about women rights… I will have to burst the bubble , sorry Please read all the way,
You missing the historical context Through your statement
Just talking about western countries, The legal system was set up for women to be inferior and dependent on men good will …
Here are the REAL FACTS , not some BS talk point from some conservative pundits ! The list is awfully long , THIS IS WHAT THE WOMEN OF MY & YOUR FAMILY had to live through…
These are: All the way to the 60’s Married Women couldn’t hold a job if their husbands was opposed to it, and he could keep her paycheck. They couldn’t have a bank account in their own name.
If they wanted the pill, they had to prove they needed it (had lots of kids already) and that the husband approved. When women worked, proving sexual harassment was very difficult, and it could be assumed the woman was leading / encouraging the man, Cheating was common and not ground for divorce, (if the man cheated) as long as the family wasn’t affected by it (financially) When a woman asked for divorce she had to prove why , and most likely she wouldn’t get her kids custody. When a man wanted to get rid of his wife, he’d find a complacent doctor to deem his wife unfit, have her locked up and then ask for divorce on grounds of unfitness.
The authority on the kids were given to the father, not shared. Cops were chuckling at spousal abuse. And wife beaters were rewarded or ignored.
Even women of private means, once married saw their money going under the husband tutelage… Rape was considered the girl fault (did you lead him ? Have a short dress…) It was very hard (impossible) for women to get into university to get a diploma , for the one who successfully graduated and all, it was hard even impossible to get a job in line with their qualifications (lawyers, Doctors and all) In office setting women were confined to the typing pool and secretarial functions!
Today Women rights have much improved, but society still considers it’s a woman duty to look after the kids, to have the mental charge of doing all the organizing for doctors appointments, keep track of the holidays, birthdays and all, There are much more men in politics than women and on the boards of directors…
So here in 21st century, in western countries, women have much more independence than before, but in the majority of the population on earth it’s so far from the case,
A country has just lower the age of consent to 9yo Another country has forbid education after 12yo for girls Another country has legalized marital beating, as long as it doesn’t give injuries
Sorry for such a long post Hope you read it all And realize that really women are / were oppressed