r/AskMenAdvice • u/Complex_Memory_7320 • 2d ago

Patriarchy Hoax Opinion

So I have been reading that women were traditionally been opressed by men. Although to some context it is true. Whenever I think about it becomes hazy and I can't digest it. Like my ancestors and many more worked so hard all their lives so that we in present can have a better future, just to be called oppressors in modern times. Also for marraiges were women weren't treated fairly there were also men who got women like that. So it's basically comes down to like there are good people and bad people. Also now I see many countries that have baised laws have their birth rates below 2.1 . Breaking the family unit apart is the best way to break us apart in future. I guess many of us had a decent family to teach us things from both perspectives. I can't speak on this way more although I guess it would be mundane. I don't mean to come out as offensive to anyone just my thoughts and want to know about it from different perspectives.

Edit 1 :- Thank you everyone for sharing your perspective I'll try to look into each one. Also again a heartful thank you for letting me now the insights. Try to keep a unbiased view. Wish you a great time ahead. Edit 2 :- I'll be closing this thread after few days. Got much needed insight .

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u/ProfessionalCoat8512 man 2d ago

Women weren’t any more oppressed than men historically speaking.

Until recently most people were serfs in Europe which was little more than slaves.

Meaning most men and woman couldn’t vote.

Men won the right to vote and then later women did; that is the truth and it wasn’t until relatively recently.

Men also had it a lot harder in times of war and famine sacrifice themselves.

Even if you watch old interviews of women in the 1950’s and 1960’s if asked whether they control the house or their husband does; about 60% of the women respond they did.

The narrative of super oppressed women is just a popular story.

In reality the biggest limitations imposed on women vrs men were biological and until recently we had limited means to change that.

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u/Complex_Memory_7320 1d ago

I guess the truth lies in between. Very well thanks for sharing your opinion.

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u/gringo-go-loco man 1d ago

Men fought and died for the right to vote. Big difference.

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u/ProfessionalCoat8512 man 1d ago

Meh I won’t quibble about who won’t the right to vote and suffered more.

The truth is for 99.9% of humans being a man or a woman through history was fucking hard.

Men and women were all oppressed, used etc.

The average person male or female has never had it this good at least in the West.

People look back and see show like Downton Abbey and think all white men lived in such opulence and grandeur; while the poor power other people were heinously abused.

In truth, that was a tiny fraction probably similar to the fraction that are billionaires today.