r/wec • u/Christodej Toyota • Aug 16 '24

SuperGT/DTM End of year Super GT test times

For those who haven't seen it Kyle Larson has claimed that he is better than Max Verstappen and that Max Only drives open wheelers. I recall something about him doing the post season test in the NSX GT500. It could be 2022 and was wondering if the times were published somewhere.

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u/Competitive-Ad-498 Aug 16 '24

Alonso, Hülkenberg, Kobayashi, Buemi, Giovinazzi, Hartley, Nakajima, Lotterer, Wurz, Gené, Lehto... Just going back through the list of Le Mans winners

Alonso really was a good all-rounder and I'll give it up to him, but most of them were also-ran drivers and test drivers in F1 that weren't part of the conversation.

So the lesser F1 drivers are not part of the conversation?

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u/bangbangracer Aug 16 '24

In regard to F1, yeah.

Lotterer is one of the sportscar racing greats, but he had one F1 start for Caterham, an also-ran team.

Buemi is basically one of the biggest names for Formula E and is great in sports car racing, but he only ever gotten 29 points in F1.

Nakajima drove for the Toyota F1 effort, which is widely considered the most expensive failure in motorsports. He's great in SuperGT and endurance series though.

I'm not going to run through all of them, but all of them either had a blip of a career in F1 or wouldn't be missed if they were forgotten. These aren't F1 drivers in other series. These are sports car and touring car drivers who showed up for a bit in F1.

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u/Competitive-Ad-498 Aug 16 '24

Buemi. In what car did he drive? Toro Rosso. Not a front running car. But he was still a Formula 1 driver.

I'm not going through all of them, but only a very few had a blip of a career in F1.

Only Lotterer had less than one season. The others had one or more seasons in F1.

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u/bangbangracer Aug 16 '24

I think it was 2 seasons with Toro Rosso for Buemi. But are we really going to say his top thing he's ever done is show up to F1 for 2 minutes when he's won Le Mans 4 times and was the Formula E champ for the 15-16 season?

Don't put F1 on that high of a pedestal. This is the defending billionaires of motorsports.

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u/Competitive-Ad-498 Aug 16 '24

I don't think that there is any use in trying to debate with you, when you come with these statements:

But are we really going to say his top thing he's ever done is show up to F1 for 2 minutes

Don't put F1 on that high of a pedestal. This is the defending billionaires of motorsports.

It is clear you hate F1. And that is fine. But don't bother us with that. I never considered American racing that much of a sport. Mostly it is just entertainment at first. And then when it is needed, they add a sports element to it.

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u/bangbangracer Aug 16 '24

Yeah, we definitely are in an immovable object unstoppable force moment here.