r/reddeadmysteries PC Mar 11 '20

Game Files "Frozen" Neanderthal Animation Found

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u/CSEnzley PC Mar 11 '20

...it was labeled under 'discoverable'.

Like a lot of the other points of interest.

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u/Lacedaemon1313 Story Mode Mar 11 '20

Is this real? So it means that it was supposed to be a point of interest but had been cut out?

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u/CSEnzley PC Mar 11 '20

This does prove that he is/was meant to be discovered like other points of interests and the "frozen animation" kinda confirms our suspicions about where he probably is/was.

Some of these animations tend to trigger when the player is a certain distance from a particular point. Hoping we can still find this "trigger point" (if it wasn't cut of course).

EDIT: Unsure if this has been mentioned before but his ped model is even listed under the same category as the corpses and peds from other points of interests.

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u/deepfriedchameleon Mar 11 '20

What is the trigger point is somewhere in Chapter 1. Just like the "prologue" of GTA5?

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u/OpathicaNAE Mar 11 '20

I just started playing a few weeks ago, and I thought about that the day when I first played! I was like, there's SO much in this snowstorm, there has to be something hidden. But each time I'd look too far, it'd mission fail.

If you had to ask me, it'd be after the home invasion when you're going with Dutch, or during that home raid somewhere around it. But I looked and didn't find anything, but I'm also not anyone to be known for finding things like this.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '20

I think it would be in the crevace on the glacier where you go to get marston

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '20 edited Apr 01 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '20

a glacier is frozen, and has been for a very long time right so it really is the only place he could logicaly be unless there are other glaciers

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

Are you able to get up there later in the game?

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

I dont think so

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u/Kveldson May 15 '20

Maybe, I'm not sure but I'll check. I found the first little mining town where the gang attacks the o'driscolls to get the dynamite the other day when I was up and The Grizzlies, so you might be able to get back to the little town or even say dee burn down cabin. I'll have to check that out later when I get on the game.

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u/WaveRunner7000 Mar 11 '20

Could it be in the ending mission with Marston?

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '20

Just like in GTA V

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u/darkgreenmeme Mar 11 '20

I would suspect that it's in "Enter, Pursued by a Memory", but I think when I messed with this, the mission would fail if Arthur strays too far from Javier. Since the animation appears to be in a frozen lake, I now strongly suspect it's not up on the glacier that you are permitted access to during just this mission. Perhaps somewhere after the wolf battle and on the way back to Colter?

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u/darkgreenmeme Mar 12 '20

One addedum for anyone that might be searching on this mission for the Cave Man (on this mission. I've noticed that between objectives on a mission, the restrictions and fail modes may change. For instance, after you pick up Javier in the wagon just before arriving at Horseshoe Overlook in "Eastward Bound", you can drive the wagon quite far before the mission fails, with Hosea, Javier and Charles all whining and complaining (it's pretty funny: https://youtu.be/96kHoiBTlaI?t=989) whereas straying off the path on the way the way before picking up Javier will pretty quickly fail.
What I'm getting to is that I did a lot of searching on the first part of the mission before getting to John, while I did not do much searching after finding John or after fighting the wolves, and there might be a point where you can bail on Javier and John without the mission failing.

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u/jaylen_browns_beard Mar 12 '20

I wouldn’t go that far. This animation could certainly be the Neanderthal in rhe glacier or even in a recently uncovered mountain

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u/Te_Quiero_Puta Mar 11 '20

What does "animation" mean if he doesn't move? Is that just the pose he's in or something?

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u/JonPumpkinHead Mar 11 '20

Yeah I think the animation is just the pose. The character model is probably saved in a neutral pose like a T or A pose so when he's loaded into the game he "animates" into the "frozen" pose and stays that way. No need to save two character models to the disk when you can have one and an animation.

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u/Te_Quiero_Puta Mar 11 '20

Cool. Thanks for the explanation.

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u/JonPumpkinHead Mar 11 '20

No worries!

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u/Lacedaemon1313 Story Mode Mar 11 '20

Cool. Thanks for the answer.

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u/masedizzle Mar 11 '20

What's the connection to the GTA V prologue?

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u/Lacedaemon1313 Story Mode Mar 11 '20 edited Mar 11 '20

an alien under a frozen lake existed in the prologue of gta 5. And maybe a neanderthal under a frozen lake was planned in RDR2 but apparently scrapped at the end.

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u/Te_Quiero_Puta Mar 11 '20

I just saw another thread here that shows his full body pose. His feet aren't on the ground! Knees are bent unevenly and his toes are pointing down at an angle. He definitely appears to be swimming or drowning.

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u/Ihatebeingazombie Mar 12 '20

Are you able to read through the files OP?

If so how much writing are we talking about here because I can’t believe someone hasn’t been through every line and found something decent yet.

Like this you’ve found is honestly the biggest thing I’ve seen in months, other than the wacky unseen character models themselves like the Neanderthal and IKZ, catfish etc but still no actual answers to soooooo many mysteries!

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u/OnlyMogo Mar 12 '20

They haven’t been through every line, I’m not sure how it works but some files take time to access and to get to the actual code.

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u/SuperDuperManBearPig Mar 12 '20 edited Mar 12 '20

As dense and nonsensical as this might sound, ill be asking it anyway (besides, If I don't ask the trivial questions, then who will?). While I normally listen to my conscience, I think on this one I'm going with the part of me that's shouting "DO IT PUSSY!". And my apologies to the intellectuals as well as the people that understand more about this subject than I do, please bare with me. With that being said, let's keep in mind - this is Reddit, and I happen to be THAT GUY. 🎩

Yeah, okay so since there are so many files to look through... Would it be worth the effort for someone to organize and/or create a PDF of some of the game's files on it? I ask because assuming there are others in my position, (RDR2 players that don't have a computer, play on a console and would be willing to look through game-files in their spare time) then that's something to take advantage of; willing people all working together when they feel like it (that otherwise, might not be able to). At the least, having more eyes searching is super beneficial. So would it be a relatively simple thing to do? Or would it be too massive of an undertaking? 🧠💡🤔🤤🤯🤕

If this was somehow possible to do, to me it would make the most sense to:

• Only distribute game files that the person creating the file hasn't already looked through himself. (This one is kinda obvious lol)

• Name each file (if possible) so the person has a general idea of what it is he/she is looking at (i.e) "Dialogue", " Items", "Discoverable" etc.

• Give the searcher goals, tasks and maybe even keywords to search for.

• Or "pop yo titty out his mouth and stop babyin' him!" (Bonus points for the first person that knows the movie to that quote; damn good movie, one of my all-time favorites.) What I mean by that is, maybe skip all the footwork, and make a video or text file with step by step instructions on how one would go about getting the game files and how to search them properly, etc.