r/pcmasterrace • u/Diegolobox • Aug 14 '24
Discussion worst purchase you've ever made?
mine was the Magic Mouse. besides being crap it's also hard to sell where I live
r/pcmasterrace • u/Diegolobox • Aug 14 '24
mine was the Magic Mouse. besides being crap it's also hard to sell where I live
r/pcmasterrace • u/Mechanought • Aug 10 '24
(I tried posting this to r/windows11 but was instantly auto-modded. I doubt it will survive mod review)
I tired to keep this brief but obviously failed. Rant incoming. I "upgraded" to Windows 11 Pro a couple months ago. It demanded a Microsoft account, which I expected and obliged. Opted out of anything it allowed me to opt out of during setup. Everything worked for the most part and I didn't have any complaints. Great. Exactly what I want from an OS.
But today I noticed that the folder my 3D Modelling software was saving to was a onedrive folder. I thought "oh man I must have selected a onedrive folder when selecting my project folder?" So I reroute the project file back to Documents and I think I'm fine. Next time I save, well would you look at that it's the OneDrive folder again!
The default "Documents" library, it turns out, is no longer a documents library. It's a OneDrive folder. It turns out nearly all of the default libraries in Windows 11 are actually OneDrive folders. (I should mention I never set up Onedrive) Windows 11 not only automatically backed up all of my files without my knowing it, it seemingly moved all of my local files and directories to Onedrive, or at the very least pretended to be local folders so convincingly that I didn't notice until it became an issue.
There is an obvious and massive difference between saving my files locally, and then backing them up; and saving my files directly to the cloud. I very intentionally do the former, and try to avoid the latter, because shit happens and sometimes you don't have internet access. If my files are local first, then I can work even when internet access is unavailable and not have to worry about sync issues. It's important. The fact that Microsoft named the OneDrive directories as though they were local, made them look exactly like Libraries on former versions of Windows, and obscures filepaths unless you specifically check it, means that reads as intentionally deceptive. I don't know how else to see it.
I don't want to fuck with OneDrive. I have my backup system. I don't want to add exclusions or "available offline" options...BECAUSE THE FILES ARE FUCKING MINE AND THEY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE OFFLINE ALREADY.
Anywho, I went through the process to get rid of Onedrive without losing my files. Followed the procedure from Microsoft themselves. It deleted all of my files, despite showing that they had all downloaded. Wonderful. Just the perfect cherry on top.
All of this is what I don't want from an OS. I want my OS to be essentially invisible. I want it to provide an interface for me to access my files and programs. I choose windows because I do PC gaming and there's still nothing that has as much compatibility as Windows, though I hear Linux is closing that gap.
What Windows 11 is doing goes well beyond annoying, and straight into "deeply fucking troubling" territory. It manipulates my files as if they belong to Microsoft. Giving me the "option" to access MY FILES THAT CONTAIN MY OWN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY when offline...that's insane to me. It outright tricks you into using services you explicitly opt not to use.
I'm not an evangelist for any product, but Microsoft has officially earned a "fuck that noise completely" from me. I'll suffer through learning a new OS and whatever else comes with Linux. It will take a LOT for me to ever trust Microsoft with my data again.
Looking to commiserate. Feel free to say "skill issue" or whatever.
EDIT:
This was a frustrated shout in the void and didn't really expect this much interaction, but that's how these things usually work.
For those offering advise and steps to solve, I thank you. I got the files back, but I had to completely disregard Microsoft's own support advice for deactivating onedrive while keeping your files. Just straight up copy paste from OneDrive with sync off to my local user folders.
Several people informed me that the files should have been available so long as I made offline available and downloaded all files (making sure to wait until they all sync). However, I looked pretty hard. There were shortcuts to in my local Documents, Pictures, Etc folders to OneDrive. But it simply didn't work. The shortcuts didn't open a folder. They didn't do anything. I think what's supposed to happen is that a OneDrive folder gets created locally that contains all of my data, and the shortcuts point to that local folder. Some part of this process just wasn't working. I went through the windows reccomended steps twice, and both times I couldn't find my files locally, and the onedrive shortcuts just didn't work. Maybe a bug, maybe I'm dumb, but the whole process was extremely frustrating and not at all intuitive. I think it's pretty clear Microsoft intends disabling OneDrive to be a fucking nightmare if you've already got data sync'd.
A lot of folks are probably right that this is more a OneDrive issue than a Windows 11 issue. Which I would agree with if the integration wasn't so seamless. Everything looked as though I were interacting with my local folders. Identical names, identical icons, filepaths hidden by default, Libraries automatically turn into OneDrive links, with any folders you've previously included in that library being identically duplicated in OneDrive. There's zero signposting for the fact that you're saving to a cloud folder. It also just automagically happened without any interaction from me, other than using a Microsoft account at install. Also, I really think microsoft is stretching how far agreeing to terms and services can be considered as consent for other tangentially related services that aren't called Windows.
Many have listed the various ways I can or could have de-windows'd my windows. It's true that those things exist, but it's been a while since I've purchased a microsoft OS, and the last time I did it, buying the "Pro" version was buying your way out of the automatic services and bloat. That is obviously no longer the case. I was leaning on past experience, and my (usuallly) decent ability to navigate these systems. Like I said, I opted out of everything I could on install. Perhaps I missed one of the dozens of switches when installing? Sure. But all of this is deceptive and not-at-all a design that considers the privacy or sanity of the user. The last time I installed windows (10) there's was an option in the install UI to create a local account, which allowed me to bypass OneDrive and a lot of the other issues that folks are saying have been long-standing.
This is the first time I've ever interacted with OneDrive on my home computer, and it felt and looked nothing like the times I've interacted with onedrive on work PCs. In my experience Libraries always consisted of local folders, unless you opted to include the OneDrive folder in the library. Even then One Drive was always a folder you needed to actively click into to save a file directly to the cloud. My documents library opened directly into the OneDrive cloud folder, there was literally no way to tell it was doing that other than examining the filepath. Why would I do that? I used Libraries for years and it never behaved this way.
Could I have avoid this? Sure. Could I have known? Yep. Does that excuse this bullshittery? Not in my opinion.
Thank you all for the helpful comments, advice, tips, and for sharing your similar stories of 1st world hardship. For those of you that called me names and made fun of me like big big bwullies...no u!
r/pcmasterrace • u/Atreus421boy • Aug 24 '24
Not even crossed 1000 yet
r/pcmasterrace • u/ol_lukey • Aug 13 '24
End of discussion.
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r/pcmasterrace • u/starwavexx • Nov 10 '24
My friend bought a new prebuilt to replace his dying 12y/o custom build. Between being a father and having a heavy work load at work he just wanted a plug and play setup. He was super excited to get a new PC and start playing some games again.
He picked out this MSI Aegis pre built, set it up and started gaming. It wasn’t until the following morning when he was going through the bloatware he noticed the temps basically pinned at 100c. Thats when I came over and took the cooler off, snapped this pic and just stood there absolutely bewildered.
This poor i9 14900f was pinned at 100c for about 6 hrs before this was discovered
r/pcmasterrace • u/Tail_sb • Jun 17 '24
Anyways what in your opinion is the worst launcher?
r/pcmasterrace • u/comelickmyarmpits • Oct 11 '24
Why laptop chargers so bulkier than phone charger while providing less wattage?
Btw both are type C. And of latest laptop and phone.
So why such differences?
Are laptops makers being lazy to design smaller chargers? Or there are things I am missing
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r/pcmasterrace • u/Fernando1dois3 • Aug 01 '24
I'm not clicking on a 14-minute long video without knowing why
r/pcmasterrace • u/BarnieCooper • May 03 '24
Since the announcement that players are required to link their accounts with PSN, Helldivers 2 has received roughly 90% negative reviews on Steam.
r/pcmasterrace • u/Dom_Capone • Sep 13 '24
Do you guys leave stickers on or take them off?
r/pcmasterrace • u/Downtown-Lettuce-736 • Aug 13 '24
Sorry if it doesnt fit mods
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r/pcmasterrace • u/ahigherthinker • Nov 09 '24
Any idea what components it could have? I used to have one of these when I was 8 year old or so but never this configuration. damn I feel old.
r/pcmasterrace • u/Spare-Attitude-1465 • May 05 '24
So we all know that Sony decided to gather as many people as they could and force people to register PSN accounts to continue playing the game and force developers to accept this by changing the agreement before 24 hours.
I decided to let developers know what think about this situation via email (don't have the answer for now) and a review on the Steam store page. Also, I wrote a complaint to Steam support and got my refund in only one day.
I think that this situation is just fraud and an attempt to get people's data. Sony is known for their leaks of personal data.
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