r/pathofexile • u/retryui • 1d ago
Discussion 4/4 ritual with all ritual nodes on tree, can't defer 10 div item, thanks.
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u/WhyteTV 1d ago
Is there a reason for deferring all the exalts and not just taking them?
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u/DonWager 1d ago
I guess he saw one, couldn't afford it, deferred it, the next time he saw the deferred and one that spawned "naturally" but taking one would be too expensive to defer the other so he deferred both, and so on, but that's only a guess, not playing Ritual myself.
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u/luka1050 1d ago
Wouldn't that reduce his chance of getting a big item like the king thing since it always spawns into the top left corner or does it not matter ?
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u/FortuneCookie40G Raider 1d ago
It's not that it spawns in the top left, it's just that it spawns, and then gets sorted there. It'll just be sorted with the deferred items in mind. It kinda knows what's valuable (has to for costs) and tries to put it to the left.
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u/viniciusxis 22h ago
you always defer small items to be able to reroll 2x
the reason you do ritual is to see audience and omens, you only buy the exalts when they're really cheap or when they show up on the last reroll and you still have favour/nothing good to defer
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u/DarkBiCin 1d ago
Their cost. Most times ive seen ex’s and alchemy they cost more than ive made in a ritual.
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u/BigFudgere 1d ago
My guess would be deferral cost is only very small and by deferring you can see more items. But I'm not sure, I'm not a ritual farmer
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u/dinoboni94 1d ago
If i remember correctly from PoE 1 the defferal cost is 10% of the total tribute cost of the item plus a 5% fee, and the item is discounted by that 10% you spent the next time it shows up, but you can only defer it so many times before it doesn't reappear again
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u/AKswimdude 1d ago
No you can defer it an infinite amount. It’s just that if you defer it and then don’t a few times when it shows up (after twice in a row?) then it will disappear.
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u/dinoboni94 1d ago
Isn't the whole point of deffering it to make it appear again, i thought if you didn't defer it it was just not coming back
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u/AKswimdude 1d ago
Yea, and each time you defer it comes back a little cheaper. But incase you don’t have enough to defer a second time or something it gives you a little leeway and stays in the deferred pool a couple times before not coming back. This is only for stuff you’ve deferred once. The first time an item shows up if you don’t defer or buy it’s gone.
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u/revveduplikeadeuce 1d ago
Does clearing all the rituals before you start them still add more tribute overall to it?
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u/Name259 1d ago
Saying you have all ritual nodes doesn't really says anything at all. Maybe you have 4 altars, cheaper rerols and more common audience with the king with 0 extra tribute nodes. So your your full ritual tree gives as much tribute as 0 nodes tree. Why do i say that? Because i just started doing ritual with 0 ritual points and if i'll get 2k on a 4 altars ritual i consider it unlucky. And i don't even juice my maps that much. Hell, most of them are blue.
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u/DBrody6 1d ago
Because i just started doing ritual with 0 ritual points and if i'll get 2k on a 4 altars ritual i consider it unlucky.
Bruh what. I feel like getting 2K favor is lucky, it's an absolute miracle to get that much in a 4 ritual map.
Regularly I walk out of the first ritual with 30 favor and maybe 200 by the second. No amount of increased pack size is fixing the game putting a grand total of 3 mobs in the broom closet where the ritual spawned.
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u/faithmeteor 22h ago
I have regularly had literally 1 mob in the ritual circle, and sometimes even on 'good' map types like savannah. I have quite a few of the mob density passives too.
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u/HardcoreExtreme123 13h ago
this is cap properly juiced rituals give from 4k minimum to 9k favour on good layouts and with good corruption rng
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u/privatemz17 1d ago
Wasn't this fixed in PoE1 some time ago so you would not get things with deferral price higher than what you got? The only way you could get shafted was to reroll while not having enough favor left. Am I remembering wrong? It has been too long since last league.
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u/quicksscope 1d ago
Something is obviously broken, either too low amount of mobs or too high costs. It sucks but game is in early access so such things can be expected.
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u/Tehu-Tehu Occultist 20h ago
get rid of this stupid tribute system. let us buy 1 item per shop reroll and give the ritual tree a node that lets us buy 2, the tribute system was always dumb IMO, makes ritual even more shit than it already is
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u/PraiseTheWLAN 20h ago
Dude you have 0 rituals left, lol
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u/retryui 12h ago
Yes that's what i meant, i "used" 4 rituals so had the most points possible, bought nothing, 0 rerolls, still couldn't defer one item.
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u/PraiseTheWLAN 11h ago
Oh nevermind, just saw they put the tribute number up in this version for whatever reason
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u/matt2242 20h ago
yeah that frustrating. I haven't seen any expensive items but I did have a div in there for 5k tribute that I will never be able to afford
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u/Happyberger 17h ago
How many times did you reroll until you saw this?
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u/retryui 12h ago
Zero
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u/Happyberger 12h ago
Strange. It wasn't even possible to roll an item you couldn't afford to differ in the first window in PoE1
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u/saffer_zn 14h ago
Endgame needs to cook. Took POE1 10years to reach perfection , no way NO.2 will have even close to ready.
I'll be back when it comes out early access , for now I have had enough.
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u/Powerfulwizaard 11h ago
You can't have all the ritual nodes on the tree.
I'm guessing you went the cookie cutter build of He approaches / Tempting offers and Spreading darkness. Try getting rid of the 4 altar node and taking Promised devotion instead and you would've been able to defer this
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u/Ging1919 9h ago
Off topic question but how do u fight the boss for this tree? Need to find omen of the king in rituals?
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u/Rainboltpoe 23h ago
Player has 2069 tribute. Deferral fee is 1184 tribute. The most upvoted comment is a complaint about not having enough tribute, but unless I misread the image, the player has plenty.
What am I not seeing?
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u/kingdweeb1 Chieftain 23h ago
Deferral fee is not what you pay to defer, and he cannot defer it. Hence its grayed out in the menu, and theres red text on the tooltip.
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u/Rainboltpoe 22h ago
Yup, definitely missed that deferral fee and deferral cost were separate line items. Thanks.
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u/Historical_Ant_2893 22h ago
My friend lost 1 mirror in ritual because don't have points to defer, very fun mechanic .
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u/Fair_Opportunity2178 21h ago
Never fill up your defer slots that is a poe 1 strategy never fill them up
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u/roadneverendz 1d ago
Even without any nodes I sometimes get over 4k of tribute. Did you spend some in that and only 2k left? Or is it all you have got?
It’s highly dependent on map pack size and layout btw.
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u/ashcroftt Talismania! 1d ago
My suspicion is that ritual was put in with PoE1 tribute costs into PoE2 mob density. I never managed to get more than 3k tribute and have seen some insane costs. Tried grouping mobs and pulling them into the circle, but somehow the ritual becomes clickable when there's still plenty of monsters around. Also never seen an actual boss in the circle.
I'll wait for balance, it's such a feel-bad thing to see rewards you could have, but had no chance to actually get.