r/nextfuckinglevel 3d ago

Ants making smart maneuver

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u/TrevelyansPorn 3d ago

While there are irrational people belonging to every political party, there are political parties that attract a disproportionate amount of irrational people. The US Republican party attracts far more irrational people than most political parties around the world including the Democratic party.

Your argument is like defending a cult committing mass suicide because budhists also exist. Not every belief system is equal even if none are perfect.

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u/FirexJkxFire 3d ago edited 3d ago

What? Im not defending any "side" here. There is a clear right and wrong in this case.

But for the majority of people, them being on the "right side" is entirely seperated from their ability to comprehend the logic that makes it right. Most arguments you see are essentially what this person wrote.

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The majority of PEOPLE on both sides are just acting from emotions. And perhaps you could make an argument that one side is from more empathetic and good natured emotions. But in terms of their actual understanding of the arguments - the majority from both are equal.

It may seem otherwise (due to one side having better arguments in general) but if you pick at them, you'll find that the people using these better arguments have an equal lack of understanding in them, and have absolutely no idea how to fight off any counterpoints without reducing to fallacy or even just straight up attacking your character

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u/TrevelyansPorn 3d ago

I think you are defending a side when you argue that people in evil belief systems happened into them by accident, and people with good belief systems also happened into them by accident. Nazis are just as morally good as pacifist monks, no one is to blame it's all just the chaos of the universe.

I think that's completely bunk. There are good people who don't fall victim to death cults and they deserve credit. There are bad people who seek out hateful ideologies that satisfy their bloodlust and they deserve blame.

Yes, everyone is born with the capacity for good and evil. But they have responsibility for the choices that take them down one path or the other.

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u/FirexJkxFire 3d ago

I am making no appeal to "good vs evil". Im discussing purely how logical these people are and how little influence the logic has on determining their position.

Not sure if i said it here or in a different comment in this thread, but I have addressed that perhaps it could be claimed there is something about how the morality/emotions of the people on one side may be worse or better --- but that isn't relevant to my point.

And even if I was talking about what you seem to think I am --- you would still be missing it. If anything I am more so condemning than defending.